[opendtv] Re: I don't mean to be rotten but economics has done it in for US DTV and the schoolboy bullies on this reflector...
- From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:11:23 -0800
Well, it was ONE of the problems.
1. Bad gear (what you call signal reception). If the gear doesn't work
well, don't use it.
2. Taking venture capital
3. Foolishly trying to compete with cable on bandwidth issues.
4. Not taking enough broadcast partners
5. Not generating unique programming, so not having the possibility of
cable customers buying in (except for cable dead-beats.)
6. Not realizing that they didn't have a clue, but had money.
World of difference between wanting units and actually paying for them.
How can 'it' be about modulation when you know nothing about modulation,
except from what you read in articles written by others?
John Willkie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bob Miller
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:15 PM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: I don't mean to be rotten but economics has done it
> in for US DTV and the schoolboy bullies on this reflector...
>
> Yes signal reception was the problem for USDTV. To many truck rolls.
> Sell 3 install 1 and go back 30% of the time to solve a problem with
> the one which you lose as a customer 30% of the time.
>
> They were ecstatic when in a conference call with Hisense I told them
> how good the 5th gen prototype was and asked if Hisense would/could
> make them for us. Hisense said they could/would and a week later USDTV
> announced that they would be using the technology.
>
> Never Happened. Would have helped. Still would not be good enough. IMO
> USDTV's revival is a short term money play. At the new purchase price
> just taking the monthly cash flow for X period is a winner.
>
> Any real expansion I will have to see to believe.
>
> 8-VSB is a real killer.
>
> It is all about the modulation and even if one is only a bit better it
> can mean all the difference. Any digital modulation being used is far
> better than 8-VSB however.
>
> Bob Miller
>
> Bob Miller
>
> On 12/16/06, Steve Wilson <stevenjwilson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> > > At 7:59 PM +1300 12/16/06, Barry Wilkins wrote:
> > >> Regarding H.264 for HDTV via DVB-T, I understand that TVNZ (New
> > >> Zealand) are about to utilize MPEG4 on our soon to be established
> > >> DTTV platform for (presumably more channels of) SDTV via DVB-T in the
> > >> new year. What other countries are utilizing MPEG4/H.264 for SDTV
> > >> right now?
> > >>
> > >
> > > It is or soon will be used by a number of systems in the U.S., but not
> > > by ATSC broadcasters other than USDTV, which announced an H.264
> > > adapted at NAB, and plans for a new STB that should be release about
> now.
> > I thought USDTV was gone, but now I see they are back in business.
> > I am almost afraid to ask, does anyone known whether signal reception at
> > customer premises was a big problem for them.
> > >
> > > DirecTV is using H.264 in new STBs to deliver HDTV and I believe that
> > > they will use H.264 for SDTV to add more markets for local into local.
> > > Dish Networks is also migrating to H.264, presumably for HD
> > > programming first.
> > >
> > > I believe that all mobile TV operators will use H.264, but this may be
> > > for "less" than SDTV quality.
> > >
> > > Apple is using H.264 for video downloads from the iTunes store at 640
> > > x 480 resolution (progressive scan), although widescreen material is
> > > encoded at 640 x XXX lines (square pixel) based on the actual aspect
> > > ratio - IMHO this is generally better than SDTV quality, but not quite
> > > 24P DVD quality.
> > Vongo is also H.264 (Windows VC1 actually)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
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