[opendtv] Re: How important are new Codecs wrt OTA Broadcasting?

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:23:59 -0500


Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
 > Actually, LG does build their good stuff into integrated TV sets, ...

I keep hearing that but has it been confirmed?  I don't remember.  Has 
anyone dragged one of these non-cold-fusion integrated sets over to 
Mark's apartment and tried it?  If so, what happened?

- Tom


> William Smith wrote:
> 
> 
>>IMHO The modulation standard is strangling the business
>>model.
>>
>>LG claims to have the secret to 8-VSB (they should they
>>own it) but refuses to make the solution available (except
>>to be waved around in Congressional Hearings).
> 
> 
> Actually, LG does build their good stuff into integrated TV sets, but
> only goes that far. So this is only useful to those who, so far, have
> been buying relatively expensive and large sets. It's of no use to those
> who already have TVs, even good ones. And it doesn't provide those
> all-important PVRs and DVDRs, either. So the good stuff is being kept in
> the closet.
> 
> But it's real, and that's another one of my peeves. It's not cold
> fusion. I see this pretense that it doesn't exist as just another excuse
> for broadcasters to go blaming someone else for their own lack of
> involvement.
> 
> Furthermore, there are other companies that provide good chipsets:
> Micronas, STMicroelectronics, ATI, and Samsung (that last one might not
> yet be at full production, who knows?).
> 
> It is up to *broadcasters* and their NAB to inform themselves of these
> details, test them out, scream and shout if CE manufacturers aren't
> providing the goods, or if they see funny business is going on. Is
> someone getting paid off for keeping this stuff off the market? Or is it
> just bean counters that see "no demand"? If yes to either of these, then
> what makes you think a modulation change would change that?
> 
> 
>>LG committed to building the magic $50 decoders If Congress
>>would set a hard date.. The date has been set .. Where are
>>the units? Anyone else who grandstanded like that would be
>>held in contempt of Congress.
> 
> 
> I agree with you there, 100 percent. Where are they? And who should
> answer that question? Bureaucrats? In whose interest is it to get that
> stuff out there so DTT works well?
> 
> 
>>Fixed, mobile and portable are the future... fixed only is
>>dead..
> 
> 
> Fixed exists and is used a lot. Far from "dead." Market saturation does
> not translate to "dead." Lack of media hype does not mean "dead." The
> media can only hype up what is brand new, and best of all, what they
> don't really understand.
> 
> Portable sets, e.g. plug-in type portables, can be supported by good
> ATSC receivers as well as any DVB-T receiver. The power draw is an issue
> regarless of ATSC or DVB-T. Again, PC lap-top type of solutions
> (rechargeable ~2 hour battery) can certainly work in this type of device
> for the time being, until power reduction solutions make it to the CMOS
> market.
> 
> As of today, in all countries with DTT, handheld TV, or rather the
> promise of that market, is going to be fed from specialized streams,
> over dedicated frequencies. That can be accomplished here as it can
> anywhere.
> 
> As to vehicular mobility, again, that can be pushed here too. It can
> work, and more importantly, that's the only single scenario where a good
> ATSC solution has to be demoed.
> 
> 
>>Stations do not want to promote a system that doesn't support
>>reliable reception.. The first impression Joe Six Pack has of
>>DTV reception will be the one that sticks with him...not the
>>one after he fights the antenna for an hour...
> 
> 
> Absolutely. Which is why it is up to broadcasters, and no one else, to
> figure out where the logjam is. Pretending that the logjam is a
> modulation standard is a sure recipe for failure, IMO.
> 
> Bert
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