[opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?

Bob Miller wrote:

Who does not want good inexpensive stand
 > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
 > might build one and keep it off the market.

Well, if we really want to get paranoid, maybe the most recent Shubin 
apartment tests were rigged, deceptive, or otherwise non-reproducible 
somehow. (??) In that case maybe no one yet really knows how to make 
good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers.

Heck, to some extent that is what happened with the other 4 generations 
so maybe it's time to get skeptical again.  ;-)

- Tom



> No problem switching to the 8-VSB  mindset. After all we were one of the 
> first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then 
> ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I 
> can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck.
> 
> But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the question 
> of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something 
> happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone 
> receivers.
> 
> Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness 
> that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand 
> alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who 
> might build one and keep it off the market.
> 
> On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a 
> receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted?
> 
> I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and 
> mother nature IMO for that matter. :'(
> 
> Bob Miller
> 
> 
> 
> Kon Wilms wrote:
> 
> 
>>You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the
>>award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB
>>and never again rock the boat.
>>
>>Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting
>>boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man.
>>
>>BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Kon
>>
>>On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in 
>>>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel like 
>>>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an award, 
>>>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound 
>>>good. What do they guarantee BTW?
>>>
>>>Bob Miller
>>>
>>>Larry Bloomfield wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a time 
>>>>we 
>>>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15 years 
>>>>to 
>>>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a 
>>>>survivor 
>>>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their first 
>>>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on your 
>>>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an annual 
>>>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch Potato 
>>>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years ago, 
>>>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes. It's 
>>>>a 
>>>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun.
>>>>
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