Bob Miller wrote: Who does not want good inexpensive stand > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who > might build one and keep it off the market. Well, if we really want to get paranoid, maybe the most recent Shubin apartment tests were rigged, deceptive, or otherwise non-reproducible somehow. (??) In that case maybe no one yet really knows how to make good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers. Heck, to some extent that is what happened with the other 4 generations so maybe it's time to get skeptical again. ;-) - Tom > No problem switching to the 8-VSB mindset. After all we were one of the > first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then > ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I > can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck. > > But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the question > of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something > happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone > receivers. > > Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness > that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who > might build one and keep it off the market. > > On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a > receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted? > > I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and > mother nature IMO for that matter. :'( > > Bob Miller > > > > Kon Wilms wrote: > > >>You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the >>award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB >>and never again rock the boat. >> >>Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting >>boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man. >> >>BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple? >> >>Cheers >>Kon >> >>On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote: >> >> >> >>>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in >>>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel like >>>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an award, >>>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound >>>good. What do they guarantee BTW? >>> >>>Bob Miller >>> >>>Larry Bloomfield wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a time >>>>we >>>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15 years >>>>to >>>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a >>>>survivor >>>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their first >>>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on your >>>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an annual >>>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch Potato >>>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years ago, >>>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes. It's >>>>a >>>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun. >>>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.