No problem switching to the 8-VSB mindset. After all we were one of the first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck. But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the question of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone receivers. Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who might build one and keep it off the market. On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted? I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and mother nature IMO for that matter. :'( Bob Miller Kon Wilms wrote: >You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the >award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB >and never again rock the boat. > >Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting >boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man. > >BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple? > >Cheers >Kon > >On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote: > > >>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in >>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel like >>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an award, >>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound >>good. What do they guarantee BTW? >> >>Bob Miller >> >>Larry Bloomfield wrote: >> >> >> >>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a time we >>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15 years to >>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a survivor >>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their first >>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on your >>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an annual >>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch Potato >>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years ago, >>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes. It's a >>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun. >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.