[opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:16:04 -0500
Mark A. Aitken (W) wrote:
> I tested the 5th GEN with Zenith. What I tested worked well, and led to our
> statements of the same...
>
> //www.freelists.org/archives/opendtv/06-2004/msg00113.html
>
> What's the issue? I am waiting along with the rest of the DTV community for
> availability...
>
> Mark
We have all been waiting. And recently we have been hearing we will
have to wait some more. There seem to be no announced plans by anyone
to market an STB with either the Linx or Zenith 5'th gen chip.
So the waiting time is still very indefinite. How will everyone feel if
Zenith now announces a 6'th gen chip?
Or does everyone feel I am just too impatient? ;-)
- Tom (trollishly waiting for the 5th billy goat gruff)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:43 AM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
>
>
>
>>You OBVIOUSLY don't know Mark Schubin. The tests led him to believe that
>>8-VSB can work, and he announced it that day. I'll take his word as
>>"gospel."
>>
>>John Willkie
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:59 PM
>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: How about a roast of Bert at NAB?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bob Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>Who does not want good inexpensive stand
>>> > alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
>>> > might build one and keep it off the market.
>>>
>>>Well, if we really want to get paranoid, maybe the most recent Shubin
>>>apartment tests were rigged, deceptive, or otherwise non-reproducible
>>>somehow. (??) In that case maybe no one yet really knows how to make
>>>good inexpensive stand alone 8-VSB receivers.
>>>
>>>Heck, to some extent that is what happened with the other 4 generations
>>>so maybe it's time to get skeptical again. ;-)
>>>
>>>- Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>No problem switching to the 8-VSB mindset. After all we were one of
>>>>the
>>>>first to test LG's 5th gen receiver and have been trying to buy then
>>>>ever since. So I will use even minimally workable 8-VSB receivers if I
>>>>can get them. That was true in 1999 as it is today. So far no luck.
>>>>
>>>>But at least now I know they are possible which leaves open the
>>>>question
>>>>of why they are not being produced in quantity as we speak. Something
>>>>happened to turn Hisense around on a dime and LG off making stand alone
>>>>receivers.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe someday someone will write a book explaining all the weirdness
>>>>that goes on in this business. Who does not want good inexpensive stand
>>>>alone 8-VSB receivers on the market and how do they get to anyone who
>>>>might build one and keep it off the market.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand does anyone know someone that would build such a
>>>>receiver in the face of whatever the pressure is that is being exerted?
>>>>
>>>>I am becoming a conspiratorialist which has been against my nature and
>>>>mother nature IMO for that matter. :'(
>>>>
>>>>Bob Miller
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kon Wilms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You don't get to nominate yourself. Sheesh, the nerve! I heard that the
>>>>>award guarantees you will immediately switch your mindset over to 8VSB
>>>>>and never again rock the boat.
>>>>>
>>>>>Speaking of years - I just realized I've been doing this datacasting
>>>>>boondoggle for over 10 years now - man oh man.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW If we roast Bert at NAB who gets the apple?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>Kon
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:49 -0500, Bob Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How about a "Maybe he will survive but he has never really been in
>>>>>>broadcasting yet Wanabee" award for the likes of Bob Miller? I feel
>>
>>like
>>
>>>>>>I have been in broadcasting for 15 years at least. I could use an
>>
>>award,
>>
>>>>>>I have space on the wall for a certificate and the guarantees sound
>>>>>>good. What do they guarantee BTW?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bob Miller
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Larry Bloomfield wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Order of the Iron Test Pattern is over 25 years old. Once upon a
>>
>>time we
>>
>>>>>>>had 2-3000 members. In those days, you had to be in broadcasting 15
>>
>>years to
>>
>>>>>>>apply. That is no longer necessary. Now, like then, you had to be a
>>
>>survivor
>>
>>>>>>>of the broadcast industry. That can be true of someone after their
>>
>>first
>>
>>>>>>>day. There are no fees, dues, etc. We do sell certificates to hand on
>>
>>your
>>
>>>>>>>wall, which come with 2 guarantees. And we have lapel pins. We do an
>>
>>annual
>>
>>>>>>>awards meeting at NAB every year. One year we gave the Iron Couch
>>
>>Potato
>>
>>>>>>>award to Gene Pooley. Pooley, while working for Zenith many years
>>>>>>>ago,
>>>>>>>invented the remote control - thereby making possible couch potatoes.
>>
>>It's a
>>
>>>>>>>toung-in-cheek group and we're out to have good clean fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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