[opendtv] Re: HDTV DVB-T receiver for the UK


Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
 > I seriously wonder when the whining about not having
 > adopted COFDM will end on this list.

I suspect that will not happen until functional (set top antenna) ATSC 
STB's exist as products instead of press releases.

I've obviously become somewhat disgruntled on this myself.  I figured 
that if it was only chip complexity that was the problem then Moore's 
Law would solve it for us.

But having apparently been fooled one more time I am not very inclined 
at the moment to believe further promises.

The modulation standard debate in the USA certainly does seem settled. 
And I don't know even know if COFDM would be any better.

But I can certainly still voice the opinion that there is still 
something suspiciously wrong with ATSC.  If nothing else it may put 
pressure on Zenith/LG to make more favorable license deals and get 
better technology released somehow.  Or maybe incite ATI to drag an STB 
over to Mark's.

- Tom






> Bob Miller wrote:
> 
> 
>>http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=3D1004
>>
>>If made in China like Hisense and sold in the US at
>>WalMart it would be $59.95.
>>
>>If it used DMB-T, $29.95.
> 
> 
> Is that with single or dual conversion? As we learned
> here last week, it is likely that in markets where
> transmitters are not co-located, cheaper single
> conversion tuners would have problems.
> 
> My sense is that the Linx and LG 5th gen equalizers,
> per se, have gotten past the second knee of that
> elusive S curve. The most intriguing development
> being the STMicroelectronics press realease, where
> they want to use a similar equalizer with COFDM.
> (Which means, Bob, that the equalizer cost issue is
> pretty much a non-issue, as I have long suspected.)
> 
> But there are probably these other details that have
> to be dealt with, which BTW have zero to do with
> what sort of modulation you use. For example, *even*
> if the older Freeview boxes with dual conversion
> tuners had worked in Mark Schubin's apartment, it's
> possible or likely that the newer single conversion
> ones would not.
> 
> If ATI chips are already out there, and presumably
> better than LG 5th gen, why aren't we receiving rave
> reviews?
> 
> I seriously wonder when the whining about not having
> adopted COFDM will end on this list.
> 
> Bert
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