[opendtv] Re: [Fwd: RE: [oldvtrs] So Much for HDTV]

I'm not sure of the distribution chain for NBC/KVBC via the Cox-LV analog 
tier, but it is full of artifacts.  I thought they were using the OTA 
signal and putting it to NTSC before modulating it and sending it over 
fiber to the main distribution points.  But they may have changed the way 
they do this, using digital for the hauls to the hubs and going analog 
from there.

But for the analog picture, there is little detail on the water and mainly 
a blur, especially around the splashing swimmers.  The ball disappears on 
the wide shot when someone throws for the goal.  It is all clearly 
compression artifacts. 

I'm not at home when it is on to see what it looks like on the OTA STB (I 
think this is what you are referring to as the "cheese-box").  We just 
watch some of it while eating lunch hear at work.

As far as other Olympic events on at night received on the OTA STB via 
composite video to an NTSC monitor, it looks pretty good.

Dan




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Dan;
 
My mother has been watching the Olympics on her new hdtv set.  She sees 
the ball in water polo, and she doesn’t see artifacts, and she has 16:9 
video.  Great, minimalist graphics, by the way.  And, she gets her tv from 
cable.
 
I see no breakups, no swizzles, and no artifacts.
 
I think the whining about this – Athens, Torino and Sydney were different 
matters – has to do with sub-optimal encoding by some NBC stations, and 
people expecting perfection from cheese boxes or cable firms.
 
John Willkie
 

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Craig: 

"Then again, we may be too critical. The AVERAGE CONSUMER probably does 
not care, or even see some of this crap." 


I think the consumer is noticing, but there isn't any feedback to let the 
producers know.  I have heard from several non-technical friends that they 
notice artifacts (they use different terms) in some of the Olympic 
coverage.   

And another just recently changed from cable to DBS and says he was 
surprised that video could look that much better. 

Speaking of the Olympic coverage and artifacts, have you watched water 
polo?  The ball actually disappears. 

Dan

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