John Shutt wrote: > If you want to play quote games, then I hope you didn't miss > this quote from the BBC presentation: The quote was so simple and straightforward that I really am astounded by this level of spin, John. Let me put it really simply: if the quote had said, "One SD program in MPEG-2 can be replaced by one HD stream in H.264," THEN the hype would have been justified. As it is, no one should pretend that it's H.264 or bust. It simply is not borne out by the facts. Neither the US nor the Aussie versions of HDTV are heavily compromised by their use of H.262, until some future codec comes along. In any case, nothing in your preferred quote, below, disputes anything I said or the BBC wrote. Your quote states the obvious. Which is, if the HDTV program uses H.264, you need an STB with H.264 to decode it. > "HD set-top boxes were specifically commissioned and developed > for the trial by Humax and ADB. These operated using the > MPEG-4 compression standard rather than the MPEG-2 used in > standard DTT boxes, allowing more efficient encoding of the > broadcast signal. This was essential to the successful delivery > and decoding of the HD signals used in the trial, and meant > that any households with standard DTT boxes were not able to > view the HD services." > > Digital encoding is not a cliff edge, it is a continuum. As you > vary the bitrate, you subtly vary the amount of video > impairment according to the scene being encoded. So tell me something I don't know. Once again, had they claimed that each SD program can be replaced at the same bit rate by an HD program, the value of H.264 would have been undisputable. Every change in a deployed standard comes at a price. If you have to pick a time when an upgrade is to be implemented, you're better off making sure the upgrade is an obvious improvement. In the case of the BBC, introducing HDTV in a market with no HDTV and no deployed MPEG-2 MP at HL boxes at all, it's no big shakes to go to H.264. In countries where HDTV is deployed and working just fine, I would wait until something more efficient comes along. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.