[opendtv] Re: Fewer than 2 Million have OTA DTV in US
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:06:29 -0500
The "re-tiering" is what caused me to cancel DirectTV about 20 years ago
and to cancel my Comcast PVR and digital subscription about one year ago.
But my most recent bitch is the phone call I received a couple weeks ago
from the Comcast "Compliance (Conformance?) Dept.". I was informed I
had downloaded too many bytes for the month and had risen onto some
watch list. If I was noticed again I would be punished and suspended
for one year. But they refused to tell me how much was actually allowed
and I had used only a small fraction of their advertised bandwidth,
assuming 24/7 usage. The phone call reminded me of the humorous Lily
Tomlin "Ma Bell" skit of some decades ago where she threatened they
would "send a huge burly repairman to rip it out of the wall". The
cable companies are the new Ma Bell. Needless to say I canceled
Comcast. I probably would have done so even if I hadn't been moving
anyway. ;-)
- Tom
John Willkie wrote:
If you've never subscribed to cable in your life, how do you know what
people complain to cable systems about?
Here's what people complain to cable about: when the cable goes out, or a
"big game" or event is interrupted, or when the channels are re-tiered and
favorite content is moved to a different (more expensive) tier, or when they
otherwise lose a source of programming they had become accustomed to. Of
course, if they have a cable/telephone bundle, and assuming no phone back-up
systems, they don't complain to the cable company when their cable and phone
goes out. When it comes back on, they are usually happy.
They don't complain much about missing programming they've never seen.
John Willkie
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From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Albert Manfredi
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:09 PM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Fewer than 2 Million have OTA DTV in US
Tom Barry wrote:
The numbers I'd like to know have more to do with what is the value
added of a local channel? Do people really want local channels because
they are local? Or do they just associate the more popular local
channels with the network channels?
The national network content obviously has a vastly greater economy
of scale and basically can have a lot more money invested in it based
upon the expected number of viewers.
I don't think there's much question on this. What people holler about to
their local cable systems is when the local system refuses to carry the
major network content, for whatever reason. It' loss of prime time content
people get upset about, not the local ads from the used car dealership
downtown. Not the insipid infomercials that broadcasters love to transmit
off prime time.
I'd expect a local source of weather and occassional news would satisfy
most
people.
But this doesn't change anything about the viability of DTT. A viable DTT
system does not depend on "localism" at all, as abundantly made obvious in
Europe. It does depend on offering a "wide enough" variety of content,
though. *If* it's true that people are abandoning OTA TV and going to
cable
or DBS, the oh-so-obvious solution to that is to use DTT's new features to
make it more attractive than OTA analog is and was.
Assuming, that is, that broadcasters have any interest in doing so. It's
equally obvious to me that if broadcasters prefer to get people addicted
to
umbillical services, no one and nothing will stem the erosion of OTA TV.
I'm
actually lucky to have two Sinclair stations within reach, since they seem
to be about the only ones using their hours productively.
I'm often amazed that OTA TV is as successful as it is. I'm always amazed
when my friends explain how they use OTA TV, without having anyone shove
it
down their throats as other TV media do.
Bert
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If you've never subscribed to cable in your life, how do you know what people complain to cable systems about? Here's what people complain to cable about: when the cable goes out, or a "big game" or event is interrupted, or when the channels are re-tiered and favorite content is moved to a different (more expensive) tier, or when they otherwise lose a source of programming they had become accustomed to. Of course, if they have a cable/telephone bundle, and assuming no phone back-up systems, they don't complain to the cable company when their cable and phone goes out. When it comes back on, they are usually happy. They don't complain much about missing programming they've never seen. John Willkie
-----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Albert Manfredi Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:09 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Fewer than 2 Million have OTA DTV in US Tom Barry wrote:The numbers I'd like to know have more to do with what is the value added of a local channel? Do people really want local channels because they are local? Or do they just associate the more popular local channels with the network channels? The national network content obviously has a vastly greater economy of scale and basically can have a lot more money invested in it based upon the expected number of viewers.I don't think there's much question on this. What people holler about to their local cable systems is when the local system refuses to carry the major network content, for whatever reason. It' loss of prime time content people get upset about, not the local ads from the used car dealership downtown. Not the insipid infomercials that broadcasters love to transmit off prime time. I'd expect a local source of weather and occassional news would satisfy most people. But this doesn't change anything about the viability of DTT. A viable DTT system does not depend on "localism" at all, as abundantly made obvious in Europe. It does depend on offering a "wide enough" variety of content, though. *If* it's true that people are abandoning OTA TV and going to cable or DBS, the oh-so-obvious solution to that is to use DTT's new features to make it more attractive than OTA analog is and was. Assuming, that is, that broadcasters have any interest in doing so. It's equally obvious to me that if broadcasters prefer to get people addicted to umbillical services, no one and nothing will stem the erosion of OTA TV. I'm actually lucky to have two Sinclair stations within reach, since they seem to be about the only ones using their hours productively. I'm often amazed that OTA TV is as successful as it is. I'm always amazed when my friends explain how they use OTA TV, without having anyone shove it down their throats as other TV media do. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://d avevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
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