I must disagree with you on the failure of the CableCard deployment. MVPD's have not given CE manufactures "incentives" not to build CC's into their devices. In fact it was the consumers themselves and the rush (horse before the cart) the CE's went thru to get these on the shelves of Best Buy and Sears. Cable companies would love to hand off the responsibility of failed/incompatibility’s of STB's to the consumer and the manufactures. The cost of maintaining inventory and keeping up with technology on the STB is a losing business. The HDMI HDCP handshake issue is always viewed as the cable companies fault and problem. They have nothing to do with it, it's the content studio's like Viacom and Sony that want their content protected from you. The cable company buys a box from Moto, SA/Cisco (which incorporates it into the STB) and then deploys them. Because of this relationship, the cable company "owns" the responsibility of providing a solution because Harry Homeowner's Philip's HDTV doesn't work right (no sound/picture) when using the HDMI cable. Harry paid $500 for the TV, therefore the problem is the box and not the TV when it's usually the TV. But back to the point of failed mast deployment of the cablecard. The CE manufactures only put the CC into higher end units. Who buys higher end units? The techies, aka early adaptors. The techies' want IPPV, VOD, and an interactive guide. Things you can't get with the first generation CC. Because they weren’t buying into it, this started the apprehension of the CE's to integrate the CC into future models. The CC (m-card) is alive and doing well. There are thousands of them installed in Tivo and the Microsoft Media Center units. They work as advertised and doing want the were designed to do. Create a separatable security platform. If any of you have the newer cable box, look in the back. There will be a cablecard right there, usually behind a small removable gate. As for analog and ClearQAM as having numbered days... well yea(somewhat)! Analog only exists on cable and low-power broadcasters. All Verizon Fios, AT&T U-verse, RCN subscribers HAVE STB's, all of them for every TV! So, who does not want a STB? Not as many people as you might think. Right now the PVR/DVR is the must have device for the majority of TV viewers. Unfortunately, there isn’t a single TV manufacture that has a TV with a built in unit. The only options are the cable companies STB, Tivo, or for the uber-techie, the Windows MediaCenter. As a side note, the number one thing most STB users complain about on the lower end STB is the missing display clock. Don’t get me wrong, I would love to give up my STB. But no one has given me a better option. As soon as Sony or Pany makes a 52” with a integrated DVR and Cablecard, you will see it in my living room. Only the incumbent cable company is still deploying analog. The reason that these customers don’t have a STB is because they didn’t need one to get the channels they were willing to pay for. The ClearQAM is not going to die, it's going to stay right where it is. I don’t know of any cable company (unless it's a very small mom&pop) that has any of its non-broadcaster content on ClearQAM and trapping it. Reponses will be after Wednesday, I’m going into a technology free vacation. BTW, for those of you that replied to my question on a firewire capable TV, thank you. Unfortunately, I cannot find what I need. Just like cablecards, the market dictated that 1394 is not wanted on TV’s anymore. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert E Manfredi" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:10:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [opendtv] FCC on next gen CableCard http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-60A1.pdf Above is the notice of inquiry concerning devbelopment of a next generation CableCard system. Commssioner McDowell says: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-60A4.pdf "To be blunt, the CableCARD approach to implementing Section 629 has been disappointing. Although the Commission has made some progress in trying to bring Congress' vision to reality, the fact remains that a very large majority of consumers continue to rely on equipment supplied by their pay TV providers. It is another example of an unintended consequence of regulation. I support the two initiatives before us now - a Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking ("FNPRM") to examine the CableCARD rules and a new Notice of Inquiry ("NOI") to explore possible alternatives to our current approach. Each asks a number of good questions about what has, or has not, worked in the marketplace to date while probing into the reasons behind those developments. For example, would consumers be more inclined to seek out CableCARD-compliant devices if monthly bills separately broke out the cost of the operatorprovided box from the charge for the CableCARD pre-installed in that box? Is a truck roll r eally necessary to install a CableCARD in a box acquired at retail? And, perhaps most important of all, what do consumers consider in weighing whether to lease a box from their MVPD as opposed to buying a box from a third-party provider?" My take is, nothing will change if the MVPDs can make using these devices more expensive it has any right to be, or if the devices are not easily installed by owners. Or if the MVPDs give CE manufactuers "incentives" to not build equipment that uses these adapters. And yet, it is patently OBVIOUS that a substantial percentage of cable subscribers want to not have to use the STBs. That's what has kept many of them on analog cable. That's why many cable subscribers like clearQAM, not knowing that both analog and clearQAM have their days numbered. Problem is, so many allow thermselves to be herded like sheep. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.