[opendtv] Re: EPA tightens up power specs for PCs

and, to take the "social control of mobility" a few steps further, mag-lev, 
would take millions of people to where only thousands want to travel, and avoid 
all the friction/wastage issues with "flanged wheels."

I first heard this argument 24 years ago.  Mag lev -- at least for 
urban/interurban transport which is what most transport is -- is still too 
expensive to even contemplate.  And, all the long distance systems are 
subsidized by states.

John Willkie



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>From: flyback1 <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 26, 2006 5:16 PM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: EPA tightens up power specs for PCs
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>Or, all you electric, hybrid and other alternative power car fanatics 
>could reduce the coefficient of friction to 1% of  what rubber has for 
>the road by taking the train.
>Steel against steel is far more efficient than rubber against asphalt.
>
>John Shutt wrote:
>
>> Kon,
>>
>> After you paid for the 6,800 Li-Ion battery cells to put in your 
>> $35,000 Elise, you're back up to the $100k range again.  In fact (as 
>> if  you didn't know) the Tesla rolling chassis is built by Lotus.  
>> Imagine that?
>>
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kon Wilms" <kon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>> What they fail to mention is that the Tesla can't possibly take
>>> advantage of all that torque at the crank without spinning the wheels -
>>> heck it has 7.5" wheel width in the rear!
>>>
>>> A $35k Lotus Elise with a few modifications (maybe none) would probably
>>> beat it. Just think of what you could save :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Kon
>>
>>
>>
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