pshaw. You need to talk to people who once took the Pacific Red Line cars (and other LA lines) and who had to later "resort" to autos. Only the interurban lines could maintain schedules and speed. One of the last time I visited LA, I took the subway/trolley combination from Union Station to LAX. In car traffic late in the afternoon, it would take better than an hour. Via public transit, it took less than 30 minutes, and that included the 1.5 mile shuttle bus from the closest trolley station to the airport. In the trolley days, it would have been better than an hour due to street location. As any public transit advocate will point out, the only thing that works with transit vis a vis autos is when they don't share right of way. In LA, that only happened on the interurban lines. John Willkie -----Original Message----- >From: flyback1 <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Oct 25, 2006 6:08 AM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: EPA tightens up power specs for PCs > >No, definitely NOT an urban Legend--there was a FRONTLINE show on PBS >about it, about 15 years ago. Pretty amazing to me that one company could >derail an efficient public transportation system to line their own pockets. > >John Shutt wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "flyback1" <flyback1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >>> GM [producer of smelly diesel busses] killed the trolly car and is >>> trying to kill the railroads. >> >> >> Yet another urban legend. >> >> http://www.danzukowski.com/automotive/2006/07/no_one_killed_t.html >> >> > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.