I'll address just one point. There never was a first-generation Mac. There was a failed, bloated product that had been in development for three years, called the Apple Lisa (the name of Steve Job's girlfriend, and the mother of his first child -- although he denied it for many years, if only because it would cost him money. (He eventually, many years later, faced up to his parental responsibilities, at least to the extent of paying for child support.) It was slimmed down, made to work in 128K of memory, the console was removed, and it became the "first generation" of MacIntosh. And, it's hard to believe that someone with such an Apple-shaped head WOULDN'T know this fact. Of course, some people omit inconvenient facts to make "points." I just love how Steve Jobs told Wozniak that they would split the money from Atari on "pong," but many years later, Wozniak found out that while he got $700, Jobs pocketed $7,700. John Willkie, who tries to avoid all reality-distortion fields, and who has read at least three books about the early days of Apple. -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Craig Birkmaier Enviado el: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:06 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Dueling Statutes? At 4:45 PM -0400 3/28/08, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >Lost in this thread is the fact that Microtune had not a single word to >say about any "dueling statutes," or anything about NTSC bypass at all. >Microtune was complaining about the fact that some of these coupon boxes >do not pass the NTIA performance requirements over the entire TV band. > >The paragraph I quoted above is where the article jumps the tracks and >goes off on another tangent. > >Here is the Microtune letter to the NTIA: > >http://www.microtune.com/news/2008Articles/MTLetter.pdf > >Bert Microtune is in a very precarious position in all of this. They COULD say many things about these boxes... For example, they could point out that the boxes that use their tuners COULD HAVE provided fully integrated analog reception at NO ADDITIONAL component cost. The only cost would have been the NRE to add the ability to use the analog tuner that is being bypassed in the boxes that use the Microtune chip. The NTIA comments that John posted prove that the CBA and other organizations DID NOT drop the ball. The NTIA dropped the ball, in large part because they were not qualified to handle the assigned task. They approached this task as a bureaucracy would, not as a manufacturer would in trying to develop a product to meet the market requirements. As for John's comments about "first generation products," this is not even true. DTV STBs have been available for years. We have had numerous threads discussing the performance of these boxes as each new generation is offered to the marketplace. And the guts of these boxes have been integrated into DTV receivers for several years. The lowest cost approach would have been to allow manufacturers to take the NRE from existing products and transport it to the boxes for this program. Instead, the NTIA wrongly assumed that ANY feature not absolutely required would make these boxes more expensive - just the opposite is actually true - it took additional resources to develop these crippled boxes... And by the way John - my first generation iPhone is a remarkable product, as was my original Mac in 1984. That first generation Mac, as was the case for the first generation 8086 PC, was underpowered and lacked the resources to do most of the things we expect of a PC today. What made that underpowered Mac remarkable was the path that it defined toward the GUI that we all use today. On the other hand, the iPhone takes all that we have learned about computing and blends that with breakthrough technologies that make it possible to use a tiny handheld device for applications that are relevant to the needs of consumers. Yes John, it IS possible to build highly functional first generation CE products. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.