[opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American System

Tom wrote:
>if most stations are not still at low power then that leaves
>only the 2nd half of the CEA's reason for no OTA STB's.

Given the CEA's continuing lack of candor regarding item one, why would we
believe that their numbers in item two have merit?

> it would also be interesting to know
>if any pressure is being brought on the CE companies by cable or
>satellite to stay out of the OTA STB market.

>For that matter, are cheap OTA STB's available in the Korean market?

I don't know the answer to either question, though they are certainly to the
point.
I do seem to recall that sometime in the recent past, info was posted to the
reflector regarding the availability of ATSC STBs in Korea. Perhaps it was
from Mark?


-----Original Message-----
From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Tom Barry
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:56 PM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American
System

Well, if most stations are not not still at low power then that leaves
only the 2nd half of the CEA's reason for no OTA STB's. That is, there
is only 11% (any x% low number) of TV's using OTA anyway and thus the
CEA members have little interest in bothering with it.

It is not easy to argue with that one.  And there is also no particular
reason to believe it will get any better in the future.  However 11% of
all TV's still makes a fairly large number, too large to be sneezed at.

Moving on to conspiracy theories, it would also be interesting to know
if any pressure is being brought on the CE companies by cable or
satellite to stay out of the OTA STB market.

For that matter, are cheap OTA STB's available in the Korean market?

- Tom

Dale Kelly wrote:
> Tom wrote:
>
>>Are most broadcasters still at low power?  I thought that was supposed
>>to change.
>
>
> In answer to this same allegation, made by CEA over two tears ago, MSTV
used
> FCC DTV Station construction records to show that approximately 75% of all
> US homes were covered by at least four full power DTV network signals.
And,
> that percentage has certainly increased since then.
> As is typical, CEA never responded and continues to repeat this untruth.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Tom Barry
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the
American
> System
>
>
> John Shutt wrote:
> (CEA wrote)
>
>  > "This publicity stunt is novel considering that no one before has
> suggested
>  > any problem with creating a relatively simple digital to analog
> converter
>  > box. The issue is market demand. No one sells the product in the U.S.
> today
>  > as most local broadcasters do not have full-power HDTV broadcasts and
> only
>  > 11 percent of TV sets are even used to receive over-the-air (OTA)
>  > broadcasting.
>
> Are most broadcasters still at low power?  I thought that was supposed
> to change.
>
> - Tom
>
>
>
>>Bert,
>>
>>Here was the CEA's response to the NAB/MSTV's Request for Quote last June
>>for affordable ATSC to NTSC converter boxes.  You tell me what the problem
>>is.
>>
>>John
>>
>>FOR RELEASE
>>
>>Contact:
>>
>>Jeff Joseph
>>tel: (703) 907-7664
>>e-mail: jjoseph@xxxxxx
>>http://www.CE.org
>>
>>or
>>
>>Megan Pollock
>>tel: (703) 907-7668
>>e-mail: mpollock@xxxxxx
>>
>>CEA BEWILDERED BY BROADCASTER BOX IMBROGLIO
>>
>>Publicity Stunt is a Solution in Search of a Problem
>>
>>Arlington, Va., June 16, 2005 - The following statement was issued today
>
> by
>
>>Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) President and CEO Gary Shapiro in
>>response to the Association for Maximum Service Television Stations Inc.
>>(MSTV) and the National Association of Broadcasters' (NAB) plan to develop
>
> a
>
>>prototype digital to analog converter box for digital television (DTV)
>>reception:
>>
>>"This publicity stunt is novel considering that no one before has
>
> suggested
>
>>any problem with creating a relatively simple digital to analog converter
>>box. The issue is market demand. No one sells the product in the U.S.
>
> today
>
>>as most local broadcasters do not have full-power HDTV broadcasts and only
>>11 percent of TV sets are even used to receive over-the-air (OTA)
>>broadcasting.
>>
>>"History repeats itself. The NAB commissioned a prototype model radio in
>>1987 and its
>>commercial success has been underwhelming. We suggest broadcasters focus
>>their resources on promoting OTA broadcasting, rather than trying to
>
> confuse
>
>>the situation and delay a cut-off date," said Shapiro.
>>
>>About CEA:
>>The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) is the preeminent trade
>>association promoting growth in the consumer technology industry through
>>technology policy, events, research, promotion and the fostering of
>
> business
>
>>and strategic relationships. CEA represents more than 2,000 corporate
>>members involved in the design, development, manufacturing, distribution
>
> and
>
>>integration of audio, video, mobile electronics, wireless and landline
>>communications, information technology, home networking, multimedia and
>>accessory products, as well as related services that are sold through
>>consumer channels. Combined, CEA's members account for more than $121
>>billion in annual sales. CEA's resources are available online at
>>http://www.CE.org, the definitive source for information about the
>
> consumer
>
>>electronics industry.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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