[opendtv] Re: Democrats Air Concerns About Analog Switchover
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:22:48 -0500
At 11:18 AM -0800 11/21/06, John Willkie wrote:
So, they won't be interested in buying something by clicking on their remote
versus getting up from the tv set, going over to the computer, and working
there? I see these as two different 'markets' and don't think that one
forecloses the other.
Not what I was saying.
One of the reasons that the Full Service Network failed was that they
wanted any entity using their system to use their proprietary tools
for interactivity. There was this handy book that TW would sell you
defining the way the system worked and the tools that would be used.
Other cable companies were talking about the same concept, however,
each had its own proprietary tools. Furthermore, with the Full
Service Network, TW set up toll booths for everyone; if you wanted to
get in the T-commerce business, you had to pay Time Warner a
percentage of the transaction, as well as using their proprietary
tools.
Needless to say this never happened, nor have there been any real
successes in the realm of interactive TV in the U.S. Instead,
something interesting happened on the way to the digital age...
The Internet.
The Internet allowed anyone to set up their own storefront using
extensible standardized tools. The infrastructure for networked
commerce happened via the Internet, rather than walled gardens. OCAP
is yet another attempt to build cable industry standards for
interactivity, tools that hardly anyone has an interest in using.
This is not to say that people do not want to interact with TV or buy
things. T-commerce is already a huge business, depending mostly on
the telephone as a return channel, and now increasingly the Internet.
What any advertiser wants is to be able to close the loop with a
potential buyer. What they do not want is to have to pay for the ad,
then share the revenues from the transaction too. And there is no
need for this.
Most cable systems today already provide the back channel technology
- not the upstream signaling used for VOD, but rather the broadband
IP channels, over which the cable company has no "content" control.
And many homes now have persistent Internet connectivity, either from
the cable company, the phone company or alternative broadband
providers. When the STB or integrated TV is connected to the
Internet, you have almost everything needed to support T-commerce,
even for broadcasters who do not have a return path.
By the way, John. I described all of this in detail in the Data
Broadcast papers I presented at SMPTE conference in the mid to late
'90s.
There is one other thing that you need in the TV to do this: support
for interactions and a GUI to control them. You can do this using any
number of proprietary schemes like OCAP, OpenTV, MHEG, et al. OR you
can use a web browser...
Now that virtually all new TVs are use progressive scanning and have
addressable rasters, adding a browser is a no brainer.
So the long answer to you question is thus: The consumer will have
several options in terms of closing the loop with content that is
pushed to the receiver via DBS, Cable, or broadcast. IF properly
implemented, the receiver can keep a list of URLS for everything that
was offered during the period that someone is watching. Think of this
like the history function in a web browser. The viewer could then
access this history list, either directly via the TV, or indirectly
via a PC to handle potential transactions, or to simply gather more
depth info about a program.
Or the viewer could interact immediately using the browser built into
the TV. If they did this during a program the program would be
cached, and they could pick up wherever they stopped viewing before
they paused for the interaction.
I could keep going, or just send you one of the SMPTE papers John.
In the 'personal people meter' context, there is some and perhaps a
significant amount of value to be gained by tying viewing into purchasing,
versus off-line 'click when you want' purchases.
And there is no reason in a home networked environment that this
cannot be tracked, no matter how the interaction takes place. The
whole point here is that we are moving to a networked environment
with persistent INTER-connectivity, rather than a bunch of walled
gardens where the bits cannot move outside of those walls.
I agree that there is significant value in closing the loop between
advertiser and viewer. There is also a downside - we may get real
verifiable ratings for what people actually are watching. We may also
get more targeted advertising, and the opportunity to barter our time
for content, by watching ads we are interested in, or as a bonus when
we buy stuff.
I will say that unless someone or several someones don't try these
technologies that tie in video/audio with interactive content, then it won't
happen.
There have been many attempts, with limited success in the U.S. There
is a real T-commerce business taking shape in Europe, but it also
faces the problem of competiting with the Internet.
More important, however, is the fact that the major players are
indeed NOT TRYING. Instead they continue to push proprietary concepts
that never seem to get much traction. There are strong parallels here
between the "placeholder" ATSC standard, and the various proprietary
standards for interactivity. In both cases the real goal is to keep
people surfing with a TV remote..."just lean back, shut up, and watch
what we tell you to watch."
By know, I would have thought everyone on this list understands that
the content creation and distribution industries are primarily
concerned about maintaining the status quo, not building new
empires...
That's why the stock prices for the big content conglomerates are in
the tank, but Google just broke $500/share yesterday.
Regards
Craig
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So, they won't be interested in buying something by clicking on their remote versus getting up from the tv set, going over to the computer, and working there? I see these as two different 'markets' and don't think that one forecloses the other.
In the 'personal people meter' context, there is some and perhaps a significant amount of value to be gained by tying viewing into purchasing, versus off-line 'click when you want' purchases.
I will say that unless someone or several someones don't try these technologies that tie in video/audio with interactive content, then it won't happen.
- [opendtv] Re: Democrats Air Concerns About Analog Switchover
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- [opendtv] Re: Democrats Air Concerns About Analog Switchover
- From: John Willkie