[opendtv] Re: Defining Visions: They've Done It To Us Again. . .???!!!
- From: Ron Economos <k6mpg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:07:05 -0700
HDMI supports 1080@24p. Refer to EIA-CEA-861B for all the
video formats that HDMI can transport. A couple of Sony hi-end
digital projectors will accept the 1080@24sF variant.
IEEE1394 can deliver 8 channels of uncompressed audio with
content protection. In fact, it's the only digital interface currently
allowed for SACD. Installed base is not huge, but it's on pretty
much all Japanese hi-end receivers and DVD players.
Ron
Kilroy Hughes wrote:
>Boy; that one snuck up on us like a garbage truck with no muffler.
>
>The thing that really drove HDMI was cable settop boxes, when the CE
>industry was informed by MPA, etc. they weren't going to be connecting
>high quality content to HD screens over unprotected digital connections.
>
>Then the Broadcast Flag was going to require HDMI (or DVI/HDCP) output
>from tuner to glass for everything but commercials, apparently.
>
>The HD disc formats are following several years of precedent, it
>shouldn't be a surprise.
>
>Of more interest to me is that HDMI as usually implemented isn't
>sufficient for the 1080P24 movies and most (film) television production
>available on the new disc formats. HDMI sources (like HD DVD-V players)
>usually have to interlace the content and apply 3:2 pull down and
>interlace filtering to convert to the brain dead 60 Hz 540 line
>broadcast transmission standards of 50 years ago implemented in most
>HDMI displays. With the new "HD Ready" European displays that support
>both 50 and 60 Hz, they'll get to enjoy 3:2 interlace judder from
>progressive content also. =20
>
>What really pisses me off is that these "raster refresh" interface
>standards have nothing to do with modern display technology that will
>have to try to remove the repeat fields, won't be able to put back the
>lost resolution of capturing or filtering for 540 lines, and will have
>to resample both spatially and temporally to update most display
>technologies. If you just send 1080P24 over the wire, the display can
>handle it at the highest quality and lowest cost. Since something like
>80% of TV is produced progressively, on film, it might be good to pay
>attention to that entry in the non-existent Table 3 for broadcast. For
>movie disc formats its mandatory.
>
>PS. Name another audio interface other than HDMI that will deliver 8
>channels of uncompressed digital audio at 96kHz/24-bit. The 40 million
>audio receivers in place now can only handle 2 channel Red Book LPCM,
>multichannel AC-3 at 448kHz or 640kHz, or multichannel DTS up to 1.5
>Mbps over S/PDIF. Unfortunately, there's nothing to connect HDMI to (no
>AV receivers under $10K with HDMI input, approximately zero installed
>base). =20
>
>The only interface that can handle HD discs today is six analog audio
>cables (same as used for DVD-Audio and SACD), and 3 three analog video
>cables YPrPb. But those are unprotected, so they are not worthy.
>
>Kilroy Hughes
>
>
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