[opendtv] Re: Defining Visions: They've Done It To Us Again. . .???!!!

HDMI v.1.2 finally incorporates SACD (in addition to DVD-Audio in preceeding 
version).
So if they are really serious about closing the "Analog Hole", I would expect 
the new
HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Players will eliminate the 6 discrete analog RCA connections.
Similarly, I would expect new SACD Players to also eliminate the analog 
capability.
 
Of course, this would also mean the current HDMI v.1.1 equipped Surround Sound
Amps/Receivers will not be able to play SACDs (and perhaps not DVD-Audio) unless
you connect an older SACD Player via 6 discrete analog inputs.  So I guess I
shouldn't be in a hurry to upgrade for HD-DVD/Blu-Ray until HDMI v.1.2 is also
available in an accompanying Surround Receiver.
Oh yeah, also have to upgrade the HDTV to take full advantage of 24P and 60P 
DVD's.
 
And THEN, after they sucker us into a  third generation HDTV, the SUPER HIGH REZ
Digital Cinema systems (4K x 2K) will start to trickle out in larger 
numbers.....
Of course that will require yet another change to ATSC, Cable and SAT systems.
Which would then be followed by the 8Kx 4K (probably 3D) "Enhanced Reality" 
systems...
 
My wallet just cant' wait....
 
                                       <holl_ands>
 
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Richard Hollandsworth <holl_ands@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I also believe this story has been mis-reported.
Presuming that the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Players would follow the lead of current 
Upconverting DVD Players (lo-rez only via Component Video and hi-rez only via 
HDCP covered DVI/HDMI), I would expect the following: 

1. The HDMI port would only work with HDCP compliant DVI and HDMI ports for 
hi-rez.
2. Since most current HDTVs will only accept 480p/720p/1080i, the HDMI port 
should
selectively down convert anything that is higher than this (e.g. 1080p).
3. HDTV's with non-HDCP compliant DVI ports would only work lo-rez (if at all).
[That's why I insisted my HDTV had a HDCP capable DVI port.]
[Sorry Charlie, if yours doesn't do HDCP correctly.]
4. Component Video interface would only work at lo-rez (if any are even 
allowed).
[Sorry Charlie, if yours doesn't have DVI/HDCP or HDMI.]
[At least you can still watch lo-rez DVD's and HD Television.]

I'm also concerned whether they are going to enforce encryption in order to 
play back the hi-rez Surround Sound tracks. That would force most of us to buy 
a new Surround Sound Receiver that has an HDMI sound interface. [Bye, Bye DD 
Optical and Coax.]

HDMI Spec seems to indicate that up to 8 channels of 192 kSps Audio can be 
supported concurrently with the highest resolution/refresh setting of 
1920x1080p at 60 Hz.
This seems to be within the 165 Mpixel/sec limit of a Type A HDMI (Single 
Channel) interface.
So why is a Type B HDMI (Dual Channel) interface included in the HDMI spec if 
it is never needed????
Under what conditions would we be surprised (again!!!), forcing yet another 
upgrade to a Dual Channel capable system???

Of course, we won't actually know until we see these players from a variety of 
suppliers.

FCC??? Since when does the FCC have any jurisdiction over HD-DVD Players???


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John Golitsis wrote:
Unlike DVI, HDMI automatically includes HDCP.

I believe this story has been mis-reported. For HD DVD, DVI with 
HDCP should work just fine for all output resolutions except 1080p.

On 23-Aug-05, at 10:50 AM, Joy, Patrick wrote:

> The real problem is the Monitor and the fact it was not HDCP 
> compliant.
> So we should be discussing HDCP not HDMI.
>


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