[opendtv] Re: Defining Visions: They've Done It To Us Again. . .???!!!

John Golitsis wrote:

> > Still, I think this violates the FCC's intent, when they
> > very deliberately left the "analog hole" open.
>
> That was very specifically for cable,

Not cable. I'm talking about applying FCC orders aimed
at HD content over ATSC to other sources of HD content,
such as HD-DVD. Perhaps HD broadcast and HD from
prerecorded sources are fundamentally different in the
eyes of our pseudo legal types. But FCC 03-273:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-03-273A1.pdf?date=3D=

031104

(remove the "3D" characters following the equals sign)

addresses the analog hole directly in the context of
ATSC, in Paragraph 42:

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Compliance and robustness rules for Demodulator Products
represent the means by which DTV reception and related
devices would respond and give effect to the ATSC flag.
A regulated Demodulator Product for purposes of this
discussion includes both a demodulator and an associated
transport stream processor ("TSP") that inspects the
data structure of the DTV broadcast signal to determine
the presence or absence of the ATSC flag. MPAA and the 5C
companies propose Demodulator Product compliance rules
which prescribe the manner in which DTV broadcast content
is to be treated and output from devices where it has
either not been screened for presence of the ATSC flag
("Unscreened Content") or where it has determined that
the ATSC flag is present ("Marked Content"). The proposed
rules would require Demodulator Products to output both
Unscreened and Marked Content in one the following ways:

(1) to an analog output; [!!!!]

(2) to an 8-VSB, 16-VSB, 64-QAM or 256-QAM modulated output;

(3) to a digital output associated with an approved output
content protection technology;

(4) to an approved digital recording technology; and

(5) to unprotected Digital Visual Interface ("DVI")
outputs for resolutions no greater than standard
digitally encoded component analog video signals.
------------------------------------------

And the analog hole was explicitly discussed prior to
this paragraph, so this wasn't just an oversight.

> > This actually makes a good case for building 8-VSB
> > modulators in DVD players. HD-DVD or BlueRay players
> > could provide an 8-VSB output, which automatically sets
> > the broadcast flag when HD material is being played back.
>
> But there is no broadcast flag, really.  And even if there
> was, it's job was to regulate re-transmission and not
> recording.

True. This is not specifically geared to copy protection,
but perhaps redistribution control addresses the main
concern here as well.

The alternative is that what you've seen here, with
legacy interfaces suddenly becoming useless, will repeat
itself ad infinitum. As this same FCC order allows
explicitly:

-------------- Appendix C excerpt -----------------
The interim procedures also provide for the revocation of
insecure or compromised content protection and recording
technologies.
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Which is why I stated previously,

> > This will allow playback in all tuner-mandated
> > monitors and will not become obsolete when someone
> > decides it's time to change HDCP.

Bert

 
 
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