Kon wrote: > the chances are high they are using a small embedded platform. Chances > are higher they are using ARM or MIPS on matchbox PCB or SoC with > coprocessor Where are the protestations from those who bemoan that, when ATSC receivers are included in all sets, customers are forced to pay for hardware they might not use? I realize that the ATSC receiver was mandated and this new hardware is not; it appears to be the manufacturers choice and that makes it OK? It would be, of course, if the consumer has an option to purchase the same set without that hardware, at a lower price. This is a stretch of logic on my part, I know, but this subject is almost as boring as many of Craig's rants..... > -----Original Message----- > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kon Wilms > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:00 PM > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Content picture fuzzy for latest HDTVs > > > On Jan 14, 2008 11:16 AM, Adam Goldberg <adam_g@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > IMHO, and just guessing, I'd say that hardware resources (or > lack of extra > > thereof) drives this. That is, there isn't enough extra > hardware resources > > (CPU, memory, etc) to support a full browser, and they've probably > > shoe-horned in just enough of a browser to do /something/ (in > this case, a > > very limited walled garden). > > And I'd doubt that the Opera/Linux connection has anything to do with > > anything in the design of TVs. > > They are running Linux on the TV, as per their press announcements. So > the chances are high they are using a small embedded platform. Chances > are higher they are using ARM or MIPS on matchbox PCB or SoC with > coprocessor (there's more than enough space in the back of the TV to > store a matchbox system). Maybe they are using a small Java stack with > J2ME, and probably Opera if that is the case since it is the most > readily available. These browsers can run in 1Mb of RAM and 32Kb of > stack. Opera and Netfront have the highest penetration on these > platforms. So yes, it has everything to do with the design of these > particular TVs. > > These commercial browser stacks are sold to OEMs with no > customizations. If you want a browser, you license it separate or with > the platform (SoC/'generic' hardware), and you get a browser stack, > HTTP1.0/1.1 complaint, end of story. It may have limitations (no flash > plugins, etc.) but no browser company offers stacks stripped down to > display only one 'website'. > > This is walled garden by design, not by technical limitation. > > Cheers > Kon > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration > settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the > word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.