Speaking for myself, Quicktime sounds to be as crappy (no full-screen video) on Apples as on PCs. Bloat, if only because they bundle itunes (even when you get the version purported to not have bundled itunes) and Apple updater. Also not free due to the time and trouble answering repeatedly that you don't want to update the application. I removed the key for Apple quicktime updater from my registry hive last night. It's not the last time I will have to remove it. Closer to evil than anything else. When you go for the updating, you first have to indicate that you don't want to buy Quicktime pro. And, who in their right mind (i.e., on a PC) would use the Apple Quicktime SDK? It's no doubt just as easy to add Quicktime codecs using the Windows Media Format SDK. John Willkie, who somehow seems to know just a bit about Quicktime, despite what Craig says. -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Richard C. Ramsden Enviado el: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:20 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Can't stream HD? 1) Don't get into interface design. Quicktime has the same interface on every OS it runs on. It was designed to run on apple OS. Programming in it on Widows can be a pain, but not impossible. As it is an industry standard, I would suggest that anyone's issues with the interface have to do with personal experience and bias. 2) bloat? compared to what? 3) codecs. Perhaps you may have noticed that Quicktime on windows does not include a MPEG2 codec. Apple's windows MPEG2 codec is junk. Other than edit suites, who uses Quicktime MPEG2 files on Windows? If you are actually using the Quicktime SDK it is not hard to use whatever codec you want. 4) free. Have you read the fine print? NOT free. Kon Wilms wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> And it is clear that you don't have a clue about QuickTime. >> > > What's there to know besides the fact that it is a bloated piece of > software that can't even go so far as to obey human interface design > guidelines? I can't name one person that thinks it is any good -- > except people who are not computer savvy to start off with. Most > Windows users who don't know any better often refer to it in sentences > containing at least 2 or more expletives. > > Windows users: > http://www.free-codecs.com/download/quicktime_alternative.htm > > That is all. > > Cheers > Kon > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.