[opendtv] Re: Can't stream HD?
- From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:26:56 -0800
And, what I have told you repeatedly is that if you attempt to download
quick time for windows without iTunes, you STILL GET iTunes. I have done
this about a half-dozen times. Apple lies to you. Period. You then have
to remove iTunes; it's bundled in, but is a separate install package, so one
can remove it with "Add/Remove Programs."
You aren't paying attention: I've mentioned this now THREE TIMES.
John Willkie
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De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
nombre de Craig Birkmaier
Enviado el: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:10 AM
Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Can't stream HD?
At 8:27 PM -0800 12/12/08, John Willkie wrote:
>Speaking for myself, Quicktime sounds to be as crappy (no full-screen
video)
>on Apples as on PCs.
You are wrong about this John - see "Enter Full Screen"
>Bloat, if only because they bundle itunes (even when you get the version
>purported to not have bundled itunes) and Apple updater.
No. Perceived bloat is associated with the robust feature set and
long lost fo codecs that allow you to transcode and produce media
files.
And you do not need to download iTunes:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/QuickTime_7_5_5_for_Windows
>
>Also not free due to the time and trouble answering repeatedly that you
>don't want to update the application. I removed the key for Apple
quicktime
>updater from my registry hive last night. It's not the last time I will
>have to remove it.
Apple removed this annoying feature months ago because of protests
from Windows users.
>Closer to evil than anything else. When you go for the updating, you first
>have to indicate that you don't want to buy Quicktime pro.
I was working with Apple when the whole concept of QuickTime Pro was
created. This was driven by the perceived need to have revenues to
offset development costs. I pay the Pro Upgrade cost because it
enables a number of features that I use frequently. And you only pay
once for each major release - i.e. from the 6 series to the 7 series;
typically 2-3 years.
>
>And, who in their right mind (i.e., on a PC) would use the Apple Quicktime
>SDK? It's no doubt just as easy to add Quicktime codecs using the Windows
>Media Format SDK.
Someone who wants to extend the functionality of QuickTime on a PC to
enhance their application.
>
>John Willkie, who somehow seems to know just a bit about Quicktime, despite
>what Craig says.
What "we" know John, is that you have a chip on your shoulder about
QuickTime. This is not surprising, as most 'programmers' who work on
PCs do not like to admit that there are other better development
environments out there. In many cases - certainly for you - this is
driven by the availability of tools that help with your development
work.
To be fair, QuickTime is far more useful on a Mac than a PC, as it is
tightly integrated with the OS and many applications - especially the
iLife (content creation) applications that come with every Mac. This
is a contributing factor in the increase in Mac market share among
consumers.
On the PC QuickTime provides the plumbing to support iTunes. About
75% of the installed base of iPod users run iTunes on a PC. And then
there are the folks that have iPhones...
While you may not like using QuickTime John, the halo effect of using
iTunes on a PC is credited as the primary motivation for a
significant portion of the consumers who have moved from PCs to the
Mac. And the Mac is now growing rapidly as a development platform
thanks to Xcode and the App Store.
We could start a thread on the headaches of using a PC as a
development platform...
Regards
Craig
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