" The good modulations that will be used on channels above 51 will drive out the bad modulation below 51. Would not have said that in 2000 but I had no idea how bad 8-VSB was then." Actually, this is contrary to your previous post in this thread, where you said that 8-VSB has improved enough (in part) to boost sales of integrated TV sets. So, were you lying with the comments quoted above, or were you lying in your previous post? I don't know (or really care) which, but I do know that you were lying in at least one of them. YOU ARE LYING. Stop now, before you need to make a second (or third) lie to try to rationalize the current one(s). John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Bob Miller Enviado el: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:00 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Bob, where are the tunerless monitors? On 7/12/07, Albert Manfredi <bert22306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > John Shutt wrote: > > >It will be interesting to see how many people come to the dance > >with STB coupons in their hands, only to find nobody to dance > >with. > > If ATSC TVs are going to be as cheap as the prices today suggest, you'd > really need a coupon to make buying the STB worthwhile. Still, those 70+M TV > sets that need OTA reception, as the estimates suggest, will make some STB > manufacturers a decent income on US taxpayer dollars. That can't be lost to > them. And it wouldn't hurt if broadcasters would remind people continuously > that they will need to get the STB or new TV, by the way, John. That would > create the market for the cheapo boxes that go on sale this coming January. > > Or instead, we can continue making pessimistic predictions, even though each > of them has turned out to be dead wrong. > The fact that virtually no one is using OTA is still true after almost TEN years. That is even worse that I would have predicted in 2000 when we talked of five years before 8-VSB was "fixed" good enough to be useful. Five years was the "pessimistic prediction" that has been more than borne out and is now HISTORY. It can't be changed. It is now a fact that 8-VSB was a disaster for years as predicted. If it were to be "fixed" and virtually perfect tomorrow nothing will change the fact that it was the wrong choice and in my opinion IS still by far the wrong choice. I will make the prediction again that if we stick to 8-VSB OTA will be marginalized to extinction on channels 2-51. The good modulations that will be used on channels above 51 will drive out the bad modulation below 51. Would not have said that in 2000 but I had no idea how bad 8-VSB was then. Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.