John Shutt wrote: > CompuServe was a well established business serving tens of > thousands of subscribers by 1985. AOL was created in 1989. > The first Mosaic browser wasn't released until 1993. > > Chicken, meet egg. CompuServe and AOL predate what we now > know today as the Worldwide Web, and in the case of > CompuServe, by over a decade. By extension, eCommerce began > well before the Worldwide Web began, and it began on those > "walled gardens" AOL and CompuServe, before there was > anything to be walled against. First, let me acknowledge that Craig is right -- we are bypassing the main points the article was making. There were other services that provided e-mail, computing, etc., much before that, John. I used one in school first, then also at work, called Dialcom (using x.25). At work we had other systems too, one being a Data General corporate system. In 1991, I got one of the first .com accounts on the Internet through a cumbersome IBM mainframe in California. (SNA to the IBM mainframe, IIRC, then IP over the Internet.) All text based, and completely unwalled Internet access (including Gopher). So there were other ways to get out there than walled gardens. But again, the article talks about the WWW specifically. And by the time the WWW started, there were ways of accessing it that were non-proprietary. There was even a text-only browser, but I forget the name. It was good for slower PCs. Since I felt exactly the same about Internet access as I do about TV access, I stayed away from any walled garden version of "Internet." Because it was, to me, a contradiction in terms. So that's why when they described the WWW as being AOL and Compuserve, I couldn't help but choke. Those were aberrations of a really nice system. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.