[opendtv] Re: 8VSB is Too Fragile for the Real World
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:14:44 -0400
I'd be interested in your opinion of the Diamond Vision 5th gen once
you've tested it.
- Tom
johnwillkie wrote:
Me, before I conclude freezes and drops are the result of RF issues, I
make sure that bit starvation and encoder settings aren’t an issue. I
actually capture transport streams and analyze the packets, and use my
tools and others in real-time.
The other day, in my apartment, using a MDP-100 MyHd card and a 4” inch
antenna, I could get a solid signal from KFMB-DT. When I hooked the
receiver up to a 2-bay panel reflector mounted atop my apartment
building, I got no signal from KFMB-DT. I’m 21 or so miles from the
KFMB-DT tx site, and neither location has line-of-site. I can’t get a
signal from the tx site “just across the street” with the same power and
HAAT, but it’s on channel 25, when KFMB-DT is on channel 55.
At some point, I’ll put one or more 3dB pads into the line to lover the
signal level so that I can receive KFMB-DT on this old set. But before
I do that, I have to test the same setups with the new Diamond vision
5^th generation gongle.
Somehow, I don’t plan to jiggle antennae between channels …
John Willkie
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*De:* opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*En nombre de *Stephen W. Long
*Enviado el:* Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:43 PM
*Para:* opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Asunto:* [opendtv] 8VSB is Too Fragile for the Real World
I was speaking metaphorically - you can not rely on the service if you
are REALLY interested in the show, like during a football game. I tried
to watch the superbowl on my then new 37" integrated LCD panel, but the
freezes and drops made it impossible to watch the game.
It has nothing to do with on-screen motion, it does have a lot to do
with dynamic multipath - 8VSB is just too fragile for the real world of
dynamic multipath. Stephen
-----Original Message-----
*From:* opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of *johnwillkie
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:32 PM
*To:* opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [opendtv] Re: Demand for free DTV rising in Australia
“always during touchdowns” sounds linteresting, Stephen.
Do these problems ALWAYS show up during fast-moving content?
Are there stations with fast-moving images that don’t freeze up?
Does it happen during broadcasts of soccer (metric football)? J
John Willkie
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The other day, in my apartment, using a MDP-100 MyHd card and a 4” inch antenna, I could get a solid signal from KFMB-DT. When I hooked the receiver up to a 2-bay panel reflector mounted atop my apartment building, I got no signal from KFMB-DT. I’m 21 or so miles from the KFMB-DT tx site, and neither location has line-of-site. I can’t get a signal from the tx site “just across the street” with the same power and HAAT, but it’s on channel 25, when KFMB-DT is on channel 55.
At some point, I’ll put one or more 3dB pads into the line to lover the signal level so that I can receive KFMB-DT on this old set. But before I do that, I have to test the same setups with the new Diamond vision 5^th generation gongle.
Somehow, I don’t plan to jiggle antennae between channels …
John Willkie
------------------------------------------------------------------------*De:* opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *En nombre de *Stephen W. Long
*Enviado el:* Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:43 PM *Para:* opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Asunto:* [opendtv] 8VSB is Too Fragile for the Real WorldI was speaking metaphorically - you can not rely on the service if you are REALLY interested in the show, like during a football game. I tried to watch the superbowl on my then new 37" integrated LCD panel, but the freezes and drops made it impossible to watch the game.
It has nothing to do with on-screen motion, it does have a lot to do with dynamic multipath - 8VSB is just too fragile for the real world of dynamic multipath. Stephen
-----Original Message-----
*From:* opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of *johnwillkie
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:32 PM
*To:* opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [opendtv] Re: Demand for free DTV rising in Australia
“always during touchdowns” sounds linteresting, Stephen.
Do these problems ALWAYS show up during fast-moving content?
Are there stations with fast-moving images that don’t freeze up?
Does it happen during broadcasts of soccer (metric football)? J
John Willkie
- [opendtv] Re: Demand for free DTV rising in Australia
- From: johnwillkie
- [opendtv] 8VSB is Too Fragile for the Real World
- From: Stephen W. Long
- [opendtv] Re: 8VSB is Too Fragile for the Real World
- From: johnwillkie