The 2003 performance was also shot in HDTV, 1080/50i, but using Thomson LDK600 cameras. The mix of lenses was not as good as for 2004. 2003 used an Alfacam truck, 2004 used a newly HDTV-converted BBC truck. There were several shots in the 2003 show that I wasn't happy with, some down to camera noise, but most down to the lenses. One particularly had chromatic aberration that we couldn't get rid of. Since the truck and kit came as part of a single deal, there was little we could do except shuffle things to get it as good as possible. Again, I was at the shoot, monitoring with the Vision Supervisor. Things can only get better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Kelly" <res0xtey@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:11 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: 625 video quality is good enough.... > Thanks Alan, > I should have mentioned that my reference was for the 2003 performance. I > eagerly await your 2004 HDTV broadcast. In my opinion this event is a > cultural treasure and one of the finest broadcast productions each year. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Roberts" <roberts.mugswell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:07 PM > Subject: [opendtv] Re: 625 video quality is good enough.... > > > > Possibly a wrong assumption. If you were watching the 2004 "Last Night of > > the Proms", I can confirm that it was shot exclusively in HDTV, using Sony > > HDC950s and recorded on HDD5. I was involved with setting this up and was > > in > > the OB truck for the event, standing behind the Vision Supervisor. It was > > shot in 1080/50i, using a mixture of lenses, some genuine HD, some good > > SD, > > one dubious SD. Generally, lenses were placed where their performances > > could > > be used to best effect, but with some necessary exceptions. I suspect you > > were seeing softness from the least good lenses. > > > > I didn't see the broadcast programme, for obvious reasons. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dale Kelly" <res0xtey@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:43 PM > > Subject: [opendtv] 625 video quality is good enough.... > > > > > >> You might recall a recent posting suggesting that HDTV might be of little > > value in countries using the 625 line system since that system's quality > > was > > likely good enough. My position was, that as good as that image might be > > relative to other analog based standards, it could not compete in quality > > with true HDTV video displayed on a 720 or 1080 large screen display. > >> I'm revisiting this subject only because I saw a very graphic > >> illustration > > supporting my argument last evening when viewing the BBC production of > > "Last > > Night at the Proms", on the Discovery HD channel. This is an excellent > > program in every way but it was produced in the 625 (580? DTV) 16X9 > > format* > > and compared to other HDTV programming on the same network was noticeably > > softer, particularly on the medium and long shots which are such an > > integral > > part of that program. Clearly the viewers in Britain would have noticed > > and > > wanted the difference. > >> > >> * my assumption. > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >> > >> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > FreeLists.org > >> > >> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > >> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.