[opendtv] Re: 5th gen receivers

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:41:10 -0500

Well, I've never seen almost any ATSC chip press releases that did not 
mention that the multipath problem was now solved, whether from 
Zenith/LG, ATI/Nxtwave, or anyone.

I think except for maybe the Oren chip in the Hipix cards most PCHD 
cards have been Nxtwave from the very beginning.  So I guess that means 
they have dominated low end of the market for awhile.  And it does sound 
like each generation has been marginally better.  However I think the 
last PR I saw from ATI said something like meeting the FCC standards for 
receivability and multi-path, which I took to mean not really very good.

I've never seen anything to make me think any of them are 
"Shubin-proof". It would be interesting to find out.

- Tom


Bob Miller wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> OOps! I meant that ATI had a receiver chip that is shipping but not in a 
> receiver for sale that has cornered that future market. They claim 85% 
> of the market with current production chips and claim that everyone is 
> signing on with them for this new chip. I am trying to get one of their 
> OEM customers to allow me to test one of these new receivers as soon as 
> one is available.
> 
> I still happen to remember the 1999 press release from Nxtwave so I will 
> wait till I or someone real like Sinclair has tested it.
> 
> Bob Miller
> 
> Tom Barry wrote:
> 
> 
>>I though the ATI was just the one they bought from Nxtwave, like Nxtwave 
>>2004 or so in the ATI PCHD cards.  If so they are not reported on AVS to 
>>be spectacular one way or the other.
>>
>>But I don't think they are expensive so maybe someone with one in a lap 
>>top could visit Mark?
>>
>>- Tom
>>
>>
>>Bob Miller wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Terry Harvey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Latest. Nobody plans on shipping an LG 5th gen stand alone receiver.
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does this mean we will have to collect them direct from the manufacturer?
>>>>
>>>>Okay, getting serious,  there must be something wrong if it is not being 
>>>>promoted or even sold. Who or what is quashing this? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>
>>>From what I sense from the conversations I have had (can't divulge) 
>>>that it is the government mandate that is the customer here and that 
>>>integrated sets are the market not real people. Real people don't have 
>>>enough info to be customers. They are selling to the government mandate 
>>>and expect the customer will buy integrated sets where all the profit is 
>>>by default.
>>>
>>>The digital transition is not their responsibility. They seem pretty 
>>>happy with the uptick in integrated set sales. Are there any?
>>>
>>>ATI seems to think they have a receiver that has cornered the market and 
>>>are totally dismissive of LG. I would just like to test one ASAP.
>>>
>>>Bob Miller
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
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