Well, I've never seen almost any ATSC chip press releases that did not mention that the multipath problem was now solved, whether from Zenith/LG, ATI/Nxtwave, or anyone. I think except for maybe the Oren chip in the Hipix cards most PCHD cards have been Nxtwave from the very beginning. So I guess that means they have dominated low end of the market for awhile. And it does sound like each generation has been marginally better. However I think the last PR I saw from ATI said something like meeting the FCC standards for receivability and multi-path, which I took to mean not really very good. I've never seen anything to make me think any of them are "Shubin-proof". It would be interesting to find out. - Tom Bob Miller wrote: > Tom, > > OOps! I meant that ATI had a receiver chip that is shipping but not in a > receiver for sale that has cornered that future market. They claim 85% > of the market with current production chips and claim that everyone is > signing on with them for this new chip. I am trying to get one of their > OEM customers to allow me to test one of these new receivers as soon as > one is available. > > I still happen to remember the 1999 press release from Nxtwave so I will > wait till I or someone real like Sinclair has tested it. > > Bob Miller > > Tom Barry wrote: > > >>I though the ATI was just the one they bought from Nxtwave, like Nxtwave >>2004 or so in the ATI PCHD cards. If so they are not reported on AVS to >>be spectacular one way or the other. >> >>But I don't think they are expensive so maybe someone with one in a lap >>top could visit Mark? >> >>- Tom >> >> >>Bob Miller wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Terry Harvey wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Latest. Nobody plans on shipping an LG 5th gen stand alone receiver. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Does this mean we will have to collect them direct from the manufacturer? >>>> >>>>Okay, getting serious, there must be something wrong if it is not being >>>>promoted or even sold. Who or what is quashing this? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>From what I sense from the conversations I have had (can't divulge) >>>that it is the government mandate that is the customer here and that >>>integrated sets are the market not real people. Real people don't have >>>enough info to be customers. They are selling to the government mandate >>>and expect the customer will buy integrated sets where all the profit is >>>by default. >>> >>>The digital transition is not their responsibility. They seem pretty >>>happy with the uptick in integrated set sales. Are there any? >>> >>>ATI seems to think they have a receiver that has cornered the market and >>>are totally dismissive of LG. I would just like to test one ASAP. >>> >>>Bob Miller >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.