Several months ago, we were curious whether any cable systems had ever used 16VSB mode (one person "thinks"....maybe...) and which ATSC Decoder chips actually implemented the 16 VSB mode (latest Broadcom, LG and Oren for sure, others are indeterminate): http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/2/3749.html#POST19808 So several of the chip manufacturers are still cranking out 16-VSB, even though it never got off the ground for cable, in favor of 256-QAM. The spec sheet for the LG 5th Generation chip (LGDT3303) and it's pin-for-pin predecessor (LGDT3302, used in LST-4200A) can be found here: http://www.fortetw.com/en/Product_vsb.htm Note that it supports ATSC 8/16VSB as well as MMDS 2/4/8/16 VSB operation. Hyundai GDS21D003 spec sheet (Mar99) also shows similiar operating modes: http://www.ortodoxism.ro/datasheets/hynix/GDC21D003.pdf MMDS is Multi-Channel Multi-Point Distribution System. A means to distribute DTV signal to the Cable Headend, to the station transmitter or to viewers like you. http://www.rysavy.com/Articles/MMDS/MMDS.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_cable http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/bandplans/mdsband.pdf http://www.tech-faq.com/mmds-multichannel-multipoint-distribution-service.shtml http://www.vmi-kc.com/html/mmds.html ATSC D/53 only defines use of 8-VSB and 16-VSB for DTV. However, I would suspect that several other ATSC Decoder chips might also support 2/4/8/16-VSB MMDS modes, not mentioned in the ATSC spec sheets. And the next gen ATSC Decoders would presumably also support E-VSB, which employ 8-VSB packets embedded within the normal ATSC video program, but with more robust coding. <holl_ands> ============================================== "Stephen W. Long" <longsw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Does any one know the status of 2VSB in the chips / specification for ATSC? When my small group dared to say publicly that ATSC had no clothes, in a now classic story, the lawyers on the ATSC side of the table insisted that robust and mobile reception was going to be delivered via 2VSB. All of the 8VSB receivers would have 2VSB modes and everyone would be happy. I have not heard a peep about 2VSB since that time. Is it possible that the 20 lawyers on the other side of the table that day that threatened to sue me personally for delaying the DTV transition were not telling the entire truth? Did they know 8VSB reception was problematic and that only 2VSB could provide robust reception? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.