[openbeosnetteam] Re: Hi all

> [Zenja Solaja]  David Reid, from GTK fame ;-)  Great to see a
> familiar name.  Its funny to see how the universe shapes out, both the GTK
> dude (David) and the Qt dude (myself) meeting on the OpenBeOS mailing
list.
> The irony of it all...

Indeed.

> Now for the rest of the NetTeam, I know I shouldn't be saying this,
> since its pretty sneaky and has a "lurk in the shadows" kind of feel, but
> have any of you checked out the recent changelogs to NewOS?

I'll have to have a look.  I have to admit to not even having built NewOS
yet.  Has Travis's attitude toward design changes and suggestions improved?

> (http://www.newos.org/cgi-bin/perfbrowse.perl?@changes+//depot/...)
Travis
> is implementing a kernel level TCP/IP stack, so that kind of diminishes
the
> urgency of what we need to do right now, since the OpenBeOS kernel will
> undoubtably have its own network stack, which is bound to be faster than
> anything we can accomplish in user land.  We'll also be given fd and Posix
> on a silver plate, so to speak.

OK, that all sounds good, but of course BFS needs to hook into those
changes.

The debate still rages on about the exact placing of stack and so on, so
I'll have to hvae a look at NewOS in more detail :)

> In order to implement the net_server, all
> we really need to do is provide a wrapper (the BNet*** API's) to assure
> source code compatibility, and an entire set of apps/daemons (FTP
> client/server, Telnet client/server etc).

Most servers are written in C , so we don't even need to write the BNet API
to get them building do we?

> As I've already mentioned, it
> does feel kind of dirty to add window dressing to work done by 3rd parties
> (there is nothing stopping you from assisting the Kernel team with the
> TCP/IP stack).

That sounds like a better plan, though I'm cautious about suggesting we get
our hopes too high given what I've heard/seen about NewOS :(

>
> Just trying to put things into perspective...
>
> BTW - I bought myself a newer car 2 weeks ago.  New toys for boys...

Great!

david

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