[nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA

Josh,
A good idea about the color file, but we have one big problem, and that is that NVDA can not find out the color of an object with out display hooks or video intercept.
It can find out the color of certain fields in MS Word or rich edit (not that I have implemented this yet though) but finding out the color of any general object is pretty much impossible as far as I can see, with out display hooks. 

Mick
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA
also, insert5 could be used to turn on and off color announce and insert c could be used to tell the color of what's under the active cursor. whether that cursor be the simulated mouse or the pc cursor or the NVDA object review cursor. The easiest way to do this would be to just let NVDA read the rgb values of the color and the user could give color names to these values or maybe names could be given to the most common values such as 000000000 on 000000000 for black or maybe 000000000 on 255255255 for black on white. Maybe this could be put in a .ini file for the user to edit. 
example:
colors.ini
rgb_value  = 000000000
name = 0
If name is set to 0 then NVDA just reads the rgb value. But if you set name = black then NVDA will say black. Also being able to simulate the mouse would give us a rudimentary way to use some of those tricky edit boxes in excel like the f2 edit cell edit box that currently reads nothing. Also I found a program or two on google that converts python projects to vb projects so maybe if it were converted to visual basic NVDA could render pages quicker? I'm not sure because I'm not really a programmer. Just throwing out suggestions. Oh, and also, do you have plans for laptop users that can't get to the insert key? 

Josh
----- Original Message ----- From: "ace" <ace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA
I certainly think that if we were able to review the screen as we are in other screen readers, NVDA will be right up there with the commercial screen readers. Again, though, this will be a complicated feature to implement and I respect the work that Mick has put into this project already. 

Josh wrote:

Hi,
A suggestion for NVDA. Thunder doesn't have video intercept support either. But you can use the mouse by using the numberPad. What happens is thunder uses the keyboard to simulate mouse movements. Whenever the mouse moves over something, thunder tells you what the visual mouse pointer has moved over. Thunder Maybe NVDA can have this simple mouse movement as well along with left and right button single click, double click, and left and right button lock/release for drag and drop. Also, tones could be used when you move up or left the tone goes up and down and right the tone goes down or something like that. Also the number of pixcels the mouse moves could be set in configuration manager. 

Josh

Josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "tomi" <geczy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] working hungarian language of NVDA



Hi folks!
I have now finished translating NVDA into Hungarian! I tested it out with Windows Vista, and all messages came in Hungarian. I think my problem is, I think, that Windows XP is in English. This might have caused NVDA and MSAA to think that I am English and that is why half of the things were in English, and the other half in Hungarian.
I have sent the file to about 3 other people, whose native language is Hungarian and know little English. Just to make sure, they will test the mo and if any issues occur, they'll report it to me.
I will send it to Mick later on ( maybe 1 or 2 weeks ) , so that he can put it in the next NVDA release. 

I love NVDA and now have begun to use it as my everyday reader.

Best Regards: Tomi


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