[nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA

Andjaws curser is rubbish compared to the window-eyes mouse keys.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mirabella, Mathew J" <Mathew.Mirabella@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA


Hi all.

It might be nice if NVDA had a mouse cursor move facility, with the
added bonus of having things under the mouse read.  But it is worth
pointing out that this would not really be the same as other screen
readers that provide screen review functions with say a jaws cursor or
something similar.  What NVDA could do with the mouse pointer but
without video intercept or graphics hooks would be quite different from
what Jaws cursor does.

The issue here is that when you have graphics hooks or video intercept,
you can get the text from the video buffer and navigate around, reading
whole lines, and having the ability to have the pointer somewhat
tethered to the text, allowing the user to move it around by text items
and lines.  This is not the same as moving the pointer around by pixel,
as would be the case with what is being suggested for NVDA.

It would still be able to read the object under the mouse, but that is
all... It would not give you the immediate navigability to other text
items within that application window etc. as Jaws cursor does.  You
could move the pointer to other items, but only by pixel movement.  It
is useful, but quite different from what most other screen readers do.

Mick, please correct me if I am wrong here

As an aside... I remember an application on the Mac (OS system 7 I
think) which allowed the user to move the mouse pointer around by pixel
with the keypad.  This was just an Apple feature that allowed them to
say you could use a Mac with the keyboard alone, without a mouse, but it
was not very useful, mainly because they did not have good keyboard
navigation available in other ways.

Mat.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ace
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 11:11 AM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: working hungarian language of NVDA

I certainly think that if we were able to review the screen as we are in

other screen readers, NVDA will be right up there with the commercial
screen readers.  Again, though, this will be a complicated feature to
implement and I respect the work that Mick has put into this project
already.

Josh wrote:

Hi,

A suggestion for NVDA. Thunder doesn't have video intercept support
either. But you can use the mouse by using the numberPad. What happens



is thunder uses the keyboard to simulate mouse movements. Whenever the



mouse moves over something, thunder tells you what the visual mouse
pointer has moved over. Thunder Maybe NVDA can have this simple mouse
movement as well along with left and right button single click, double



click, and left and right button lock/release for drag and drop. Also,



tones could be used when you move up or left the tone goes up and down



and right the tone goes down or something like that.
Also the number of pixcels the mouse moves could be set in
configuration manager.

Josh

Josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "tomi" <geczy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] working hungarian language of NVDA



Hi folks!

I have now finished translating NVDA into Hungarian! I tested it out
with Windows Vista, and all messages came in Hungarian.  I think my
problem is, I think, that Windows XP is in English.  This might have
caused NVDA and MSAA to think that I am English and that is why half
of the things were in English, and the other half in Hungarian.

I have sent the file to about 3 other people, whose native language
is Hungarian and know little English.  Just to make sure, they will
test the mo and if any issues occur, they'll report it to me.

I will send it to Mick later on ( maybe 1 or 2 weeks ) , so that he
can put it in the next NVDA release.

I love NVDA and now have begun to use it as my everyday reader.

Best Regards: Tomi


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