[nvda] Re: question searching the wiki and a suggestion or 2
- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:52:26 -0600
not sure if the hotkey is in the old buffers or not, but in the new buffers
you can press modifier + f5 and it refreshs the buffer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "shawn klein" <kb7clx@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: question searching the wiki and a suggestion or 2
Thanks for your reply Gene. Now I feel a bit stupid, I
went and tried it again and now f finds form fields
and k finds links for me etcetera in IE and firefox
both. To answer your question I didn't use key
describer before, I was in IE at the top of a page I
knew had controls. It could be that I did this at a
time when I had started NVDA when Window Eyes was
still running and only then shut down window eyes. I
generally don't do that any more. I didn't know that
key describer changed what it said depending on your
ap. Again I feel stupid. I just tried it with WE and
it does the same thing. I just hadn't noticed that
before. Thanks. Yeah I agree with you about the way
the pages load, that's very annoying. What's more
annoying to me now though, in addition to the find
command, which, by the way is now throwing me back
into the main nvda window and saying find error
whether what I'm looking for is on the page or not, in
IE and Firefox alike, well that was yesterday, today
it seems to find what I want but still throws me back
into the nvda window. Even more annoying than that is
when I try to look up words in the vortaron
(dictionary) in
www.lernu.net
What happens is that there is a combo box for choosing
to and from languages, below this is an edit box for
writing the word you want defined, and below that,
where you'd expect to find the go button, there's
instead an edit box with (ek) in it, ek is go in
esperanto. So I've learned that I can just type my
word in the first edit box, then press enter twice, go
out of MSAA mode, or turn virtual buffer pass through
off, and go read my definition below. It's not like
most forms that send the info and load a new page,
this just refreshes the frame, no clicking sound, no
waiting for the page to refresh. However, NVDA is not
refreshing the page view when I turn the buffer on and
off like WE does. So if I try to erase that word from
the box to write in another word, I turn the buffer
off to find the original word still seemingly there
and the old definition too. If I unload and then
reload NVDA I can read the updated page. Usually at
this point I just reload Window Eyes and say the heck
with it. Is there in fact a screen redraw hotkey in
NVDA? By the way, the last behavior I described is
with Firefox. I just now tried it with IE and it's
even loopier. With IE I'm lucky if the virtual buffer
pass through stays on. Occasionally the word in the
box seems to change, but only if I go do something in
the second box with ek in it, such as delete that word
or type other stuff there. However I can't even see
the definition at all with IE and NVDA. Curious!
Shawn Klein
skype: kb7clx1
msn:
shawnclx@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Thanks for your reply Gene. Now I feel a bit stupid, I went and tried it again and now f finds form fields and k finds links for me etcetera in IE and firefox both. To answer your question I didn't use key describer before, I was in IE at the top of a page I knew had controls. It could be that I did this at a time when I had started NVDA when Window Eyes was still running and only then shut down window eyes. I generally don't do that any more. I didn't know that key describer changed what it said depending on your ap. Again I feel stupid. I just tried it with WE and it does the same thing. I just hadn't noticed that before. Thanks. Yeah I agree with you about the way the pages load, that's very annoying. What's more annoying to me now though, in addition to the find command, which, by the way is now throwing me back into the main nvda window and saying find error whether what I'm looking for is on the page or not, in IE and Firefox alike, well that was yesterday, today it seems to find what I want but still throws me back into the nvda window. Even more annoying than that is when I try to look up words in the vortaron (dictionary) in www.lernu.net What happens is that there is a combo box for choosing to and from languages, below this is an edit box for writing the word you want defined, and below that, where you'd expect to find the go button, there's instead an edit box with (ek) in it, ek is go in esperanto. So I've learned that I can just type my word in the first edit box, then press enter twice, go out of MSAA mode, or turn virtual buffer pass through off, and go read my definition below. It's not like most forms that send the info and load a new page, this just refreshes the frame, no clicking sound, no waiting for the page to refresh. However, NVDA is not refreshing the page view when I turn the buffer on and off like WE does. So if I try to erase that word from the box to write in another word, I turn the buffer off to find the original word still seemingly there and the old definition too. If I unload and then reload NVDA I can read the updated page. Usually at this point I just reload Window Eyes and say the heck with it. Is there in fact a screen redraw hotkey in NVDA? By the way, the last behavior I described is with Firefox. I just now tried it with IE and it's even loopier. With IE I'm lucky if the virtual buffer pass through stays on. Occasionally the word in the box seems to change, but only if I go do something in the second box with ek in it, such as delete that word or type other stuff there. However I can't even see the definition at all with IE and NVDA. Curious! Shawn Klein skype: kb7clx1 msn: shawnclx@xxxxxxxxxxx ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals?Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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- [nvda] Re: question searching the wiki and a suggestion or 2
- From: shawn klein