[nvda] Re: nvda and windows 7

Well, people who used Windows 3.1 before and then moved to Windows 95 had also experienced very big changes like 32-bit version and start menu with taskbar, desktop and Windows Explorer which replaced program manager, but as technology increases, something needs to be changed and improved on any way, so staying on old versions of Windows for many years just because of changed user interface is, I think, not such a good solution, since most hardware and software will not be always compatible with Windows XP, Windows 2000 etc. Windows 95 supported up to 512 MB of RAM and up to 300 MHZ processors, and who wants more, who wants better, who wants best compatibility and security, he needs of course newer operating system. Microsoft will support XP for some time, I think up to 2014, and then I think most software manufacturers will stop making programs for XP, and newer PCs will not work with something older. Todays software will even no longer run on Windows 2000. NVDA probably doesn't work on Windows 2000, and JAWS since V10 no longer supports Windows 2000. So, If we are not forced to upgrade right now, we will be forced one day, or we will need to use very old software and hardware that is compatible with XP. There are only two solutions, 1 is upgrade, 2nd is keep your old stuff if you wish to use older system for a very long time. Especially, we will need to upgrade if newer software will be available for 64-bit platforms only one day.
----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: 1. siječanj 2009 18:34
Subject: [nvda] Re: nvda and windows 7



well thats one reason I will not upgrade.
That was a bad move on ms part.
Getting rid of classic menus.
Saying that ms always wanted a semi web based os.
At 03:42 a.m. 2/01/2009, you wrote:
Why remove classic star menua and the old way of doing things. Surely if they want people to migrate, them they need to give people something they can understand and then let them go further like an expert mode if they want to. 

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje" <hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: nvda and windows 7
Yes Windows 7 is quite stable and definitly faster than Vista, and this is the first version of Windows where all of my devices wher detected automatically after the installation. However, Windows 7 is a little harder for us blind. Why? Because Microsoft got rid of classic start menu, and most blind users, even sighted persons like to use classic start menu. Also they replaced control panel's list view with links, but fortunately you will be able to use first letter navigation even with this new method. System tray icons are turned off by default except system icons like volume and network, but you can customize them and make your choice what should and what shouldn't be displayed on the notification area. I like new homegroup sharing in Windows 7 and the ability to pin your favorite programs to the taskbar, and new jump lists in the start menu and the task bar that are also accessible with NVDA. Desktop gadgets will also work, NVDA even tracks changes with CPU meter gadget 
when
CPU usage status changes, but you need to press NVDA+Up arrow to hear the changes. It will work better I hope when MSHTML Virtual buffers will be rewritten for NVDA. 


On 31.12.2008. 14:50, Chris Hallsworth wrote:
Woohoo! This new Windows sounds promising doesn't it?

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje" <hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: nvda and windows 7



  Hello,
Well, I'm using Windows 7 build 7000 right now. I have currently installed NVDA only, R2621 Trunk and it works well with a few ishues: 1. Windows Explorer items double speeking - for example it says users users, windows windows, program files program files etc. everything doubled. The new type of control in Windows 7 explorer is named "items view list", not "folder view list". 2. Windows 7 calculator is not supported by NVDA, and that's very interesting, because Narrator works with it. These are only a few ishues I experienced whyle playing with and testing Windows 7. Also, User Account Control will speak now with NVDA, but only if you go to User Accounts and set User Account Control slider to 34%. Then it will be less annoying and will be spoken with NVDA. 

  On 31.12.2008. 12:43, Matij Plch wrote:
   Hi developers,
   I want to ask you for supporting this new operating system.
   Will nvda work under this windows?
On 7th january, the official beta version of windows 7 will be released for public testing. I want to try this system, because there is a lot of positive information about it on the internet. Especially its quick reactions and runing on slower machines without any problems. 
   Thanks for your answer.
   Best regards and  happy new year!
   Matej Plch
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