[nvda] Re: nvda and OCR software

How do you know that is what is reading? Are you assuming something? Does a sighted person see this information when not in properties? Your description assumes that the information is accurate. I am not going to continue this discussion with you as it appears you are more interested in being ascerbic than in getting to the bottom of the question. I await comments from others who may engage in a more civil discussion. I will continue the discussion with you if you adopt a civil tone. Did you read my message carefully? I specifically said that you hear the information that this device is working properly even when a device is not highlighted in the tree view. If you are on the level of the tree view that says my computer, you hear this announcement. When you are at a closed level of a treeview containing six devices, you hear the announcement. Has it occurred to you that other screen-readers don't read this information until you go into properties because it is not being displayed on screen? How do you know that this is not an artifact of using MSAA to read the tree view? It's all very well to say that NVDA provides this information if the information being provided is accurate. I gave a number of reasons to question its accuracy. My Computer is not a device. A closed level of a treeview where you haven't even opened the level of the treeview and selected a device is not a device. You might consider carefully considering what I say in my messages and adopting a more civil tone. 

Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: nvda and OCR software
break a device to see if it is true or not then. What it is reading is that little read only box in the properties that you have to go into the properties of the device and tab to. Instead of trying to disclaim what I am saying about things, think of my suggestions as just what they are suggestions of a convenience. I also hope you read the persons response that started the OCR thread to begin with. 
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: nvda and OCR software
Here is a copy of an earlier message I sent the list. I sent it before the one people are responding to. Since people are responding to the later one as though they hadn't read the earlier one, I'm not sure if people received it. Here it is again. I did JAWS, Window-eyes Narrator and Thunder and none of them display this behavior. See the message below for further discussion. 

Gene
When I see something like the status of devices being read when the treeview level for the device is closed and no device has been selected and when no other screen-reader I tried, Thunder, Narrator, JAWS and Window-eyes doesn't 
read or evidently see the information anywhere on screen, I become very
suspicious that material is not being read properly by NVDA. If you go to the My Computer item in the tree view, you hear that this device is working 
properly.  When you go to any main level item, you hear the same message.
System devices has many devices in it.  On my computer, there about six.
However, just stopping at the title system devices and not opening that
level still produces the message that this device is working properly.
Since you haven't even opened the level and selected a device, how is
Windows supposed to know what device you want information on.  Those with
much more technical knowledge will, I hope, tell me if I am wrong but, as I said, I am very suspicious that this is incorrect reading of information and 
is not a true indication of the status of any device.
In this copy, I omitted other comments that were in the original message because they don't deal with this specific topic but responded to other points in the thread. 

Gene
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