[nvda] Re: nvda and OCR software
- From: "Alf" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:23:09 +0200
Ok ok, since I started this topic I believe I should say something about to
lower the tension and to explain why free software.
First, I was looking for a free OCR software which could work with Nvda. Why
Nvda? Because Nvda is open source and free software which every days grows
into very good screen reader which could be very competitive with the other
products if everything continues and from my observations that could be in a
year or even less.
Guys, I don't know if you ever thought that on this and the other blind
mailing lists are members who are from country's who have very bad
economical situation, or they have very low government support who can't
afford none of commercial products.
Believe it or not, Croatia is the only country in Europe who has the lowest
government support which for a single blind person is 45 dollars per month.
45 dollars is for people who are employed and for none employed people
support is about 65 bucks. Can you believe it??? Now tell me, with 45 bucks,
can you live and get anything from the accessible devices including hardware
or software? No way.
As I stated on another mailing list, all the technology boom didn't pass us
by, and people here know for everything that's available. However if they
want to stay in touch and use all available products specially software what
they have to do? They are forced, I repeat, forced, to use pirated software.
Why is that? Just because they can't afford it. Is it good to use pirated
software? No, off course not, but I say once more, people here use pirated
software just because they have to, not because its fun.. And the problem I
presented is not just actual for Croatia, there are other small country's
which are in similar situation.
So logical answer for solving the global problem is ... open source and free
software which is thankfully more and more available for all operating
systems, and if you ask me for opinion I think that Nvda and espeak are the
best think that appeared in the last few years for blind people and usage of
windows operating systems no matter what some people say that espeak is not
possible to understand on websites, or that Nvda doesn't do this or that.
I work in Croatian association of the blind who is official distributor and
dealer for lots of commercial stuff including Freedom scientific, Handy tech
or Codefactory products. Our prices are according to the situation I
mentioned in previous paragraph the lowest in this part of Europe for sure,
if not in whole Europe. When we sold Talks we were selling it for 160 euros,
where in other country's was 250, and even 300. With Code factory is the
same right now. And still, what do we have, some people who still can't get
the product and they use illegal copy's. Off course they can't get legal
technical support from us, but instead of getting legal support they have
various mailing lists and forums where they help each other very
successfully.
As a dealer I should probably get all of their names on the list, and send
them to all company's, where they would be on their black lists, and even if
they will collect some money one day to buy commercial product, that will
not be possible. Yes let's face it , that is happening that after a few
months or years of illegal usage people finally come with money they
collected and they buy the product. So I'm repeating my self again, that the
only solution for that global problem where blind people use pirated
software is free and open source software.
So guys, next time when someone says that its very easy to spend 350 bucks
for finereader, 150 for Mobile speak, or even 600/700 for windoweyes or
jaws, think about people who can't get it and think about alternative
solutions.
Btw one more think at the end ... I have all the thinks including Braille
display, jaws and finereader. Do you know how I got it? I had to write a
paper which went too I don't know how many company's where I asked for their
sponsorship. At the end the paper went to Croatian organization for all
disabled people who organized the action for about 80 people with different
needs, and I was on their list with very high priority, that's why I got my
stuff in a few months. Again, if I wouldn't be so successful ion my
university and all accessible fields for the last 8 years, I wouldn't get
it. And even because of my success it wasn't easy to get all the stuff and
who knows if I would be available to graduate on my university where I study
information science and where I will graduate next month. In order to
accomplish that action, I even had to make a documentary movie which was
published on Croatian national TV in one program for disabled people, where
few million people saw me at once, where I was explaining how my life
functions from a blindness prospective, and why I need all of that
equipment. Finally one very good private company showed up who bought all
the thinks I needed. But I repeat, if I wouldn't be so successful, for sure
I wouldn't get all the stuff.
The reason why I told that story is because I feel that blind people really
shouldn't pay more for accessibility, and if we have to pay, we have to pay
something that has regular price and what's equal with the rest of sited
population. Yes, there are some thinks which still need to be purchased in
order to be competitive with sited people specially in the IT industry, but
I can really see that the situation is changing every day towards free and
open source products.
So that's why I promote free and open source software all the time. Why
Sound forge, if we can use Audacitty with little more effort from our side,
why Nero, if we can use infrarecorder for example, why ms office if
openoffice will be quite accessible with nvda for a few months I'm sure. Now
at the end, why some commercial screen reader if we can use nvda which is
really growing into a very good screen reader which is more and more capable
of getting more complicated things even for advanced windows users.
P.s: John, that feature what are you saying that Jaws need some tweaking in
order to work thru another soundcard, works just with eloquence, with the
other synths its just not working,where Nvda again works better with what
ever speech synth:)
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