[nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?

Gene, my guess is that the statement that Internet Explorer holds sevnty
percent of the Internet market share is an accurate appraisal.

BTW, do you or does anyone on the list know of a document that explains
which controls work inadequately with which browsers?  For instance, I
have read on this list that Firefox handles Activex controls poorly.

Craig

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:39 PM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?

I don't have one single source, it's a figure I've seen off and on when
I 
read reports in the media about market share of the main browsers.

Gene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Werner" <craig_werner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?


> Gene, what is your source for the statement "Internet Explorer still
has 
> about 70 percent of the Internet use  market?"  I'm not taking sides,
just 
> requesting information.
>
> Craig
>
> Gene wrote:
>> Here we go again.  More irrational Microsoft bashing and anti closed 
>> source hostility.  Internet Explorer still has about 70 percent of
the 
>> Internet use market, like it or not.  What if someone is working at a
job 
>> that requires that Internet Explorer be used?  What if at some point
some 
>> sites use the dot Net Framework which, as I understand matters, is
not 
>> supported by Firefox.  What if a web site doesn't work well with
Firefox 
>> because of Active X controls or some other reason I am unaware of. 
>> Instead of imposing your biases on what programs are supported, maybe
a 
>> trip to the real world is in order.  If NVDA is being developed
strictly 
>> for the open source community, then if that community doesn't want 
>> Internet Explorer support, that's fine.  If NVDA ever becomes a truly

>> wide spread program in its use, most users won't care in the
slightest 
>> whether it is an open source program. They will care if it supports
the 
>> applications they either want or need to use.
>>
>> Writing off a browser as the past which has 70 percent of the market
is 
>> nothing but bias and condlusions based on no supporting evidence.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje Katic"
<hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:25 AM
>> Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
>>
>>
>>> Jamie I agree with you! Firefox is a future, IE is the past and also

>>> closed-source, so anybody who wants IE support in an open-source
screen 
>>> reader, he can sit down and start to learn programming and then make

>>> this support for yourself. Anybody smart enough will switch to
Firefox 
>>> without any problems, plus will get even better, faster and much
stable 
>>> Web browser, and it even takes less memory.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Teh" <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: 25. kolovoz 2008 1:32
>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
>>>
>>>
>>>> List account (downstairs) wrote:
>>>>> So do these  bits of programming to add these  extras help a mass
of
>>>>> people, ie as much as getting IE to work moderately correctly
might?
>>>> These changes are necessary in order for formatting information to
be 
>>>> read properly in various programs, including Firefox where
formatting 
>>>> currently isn't read at all. It makes our support for Firefox more 
>>>> complete, as well as giving us a framework for implementing
formatting 
>>>> easily for other applications.
>>>> If you don't want to wait for the IE support to be rewritten,
you're 
>>>> very welcome to start the job yourself. :)
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
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