[nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:39:18 -0600
I don't have one single source, it's a figure I've seen off and on when I
read reports in the media about market share of the main browsers.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Werner" <craig_werner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
Gene, what is your source for the statement "Internet Explorer still has
about 70 percent of the Internet use market?" I'm not taking sides, just
requesting information.
Craig
Gene wrote:
Here we go again. More irrational Microsoft bashing and anti closed
source hostility. Internet Explorer still has about 70 percent of the
Internet use market, like it or not. What if someone is working at a job
that requires that Internet Explorer be used? What if at some point some
sites use the dot Net Framework which, as I understand matters, is not
supported by Firefox. What if a web site doesn't work well with Firefox
because of Active X controls or some other reason I am unaware of.
Instead of imposing your biases on what programs are supported, maybe a
trip to the real world is in order. If NVDA is being developed strictly
for the open source community, then if that community doesn't want
Internet Explorer support, that's fine. If NVDA ever becomes a truly
wide spread program in its use, most users won't care in the slightest
whether it is an open source program. They will care if it supports the
applications they either want or need to use.
Writing off a browser as the past which has 70 percent of the market is
nothing but bias and condlusions based on no supporting evidence.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje Katic" <hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
Jamie I agree with you! Firefox is a future, IE is the past and also
closed-source, so anybody who wants IE support in an open-source screen
reader, he can sit down and start to learn programming and then make
this support for yourself. Anybody smart enough will switch to Firefox
without any problems, plus will get even better, faster and much stable
Web browser, and it even takes less memory.
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Teh" <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 25. kolovoz 2008 1:32
Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?
List account (downstairs) wrote:
So do these bits of programming to add these extras help a mass of
people, ie as much as getting IE to work moderately correctly might?
These changes are necessary in order for formatting information to be
read properly in various programs, including Firefox where formatting
currently isn't read at all. It makes our support for Firefox more
complete, as well as giving us a framework for implementing formatting
easily for other applications.
If you don't want to wait for the IE support to be rewritten, you're
very welcome to start the job yourself. :)
Jamie
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Craig Gene wrote:
Here we go again. More irrational Microsoft bashing and anti closed source hostility. Internet Explorer still has about 70 percent of the Internet use market, like it or not. What if someone is working at a job that requires that Internet Explorer be used? What if at some point some sites use the dot Net Framework which, as I understand matters, is not supported by Firefox. What if a web site doesn't work well with Firefox because of Active X controls or some other reason I am unaware of. Instead of imposing your biases on what programs are supported, maybe a trip to the real world is in order. If NVDA is being developed strictly for the open source community, then if that community doesn't want Internet Explorer support, that's fine. If NVDA ever becomes a truly wide spread program in its use, most users won't care in the slightest whether it is an open source program. They will care if it supports the applications they either want or need to use.Writing off a browser as the past which has 70 percent of the market is nothing but bias and condlusions based on no supporting evidence.Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje Katic" <hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:25 AM Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?Jamie I agree with you! Firefox is a future, IE is the past and also closed-source, so anybody who wants IE support in an open-source screen reader, he can sit down and start to learn programming and then make this support for yourself. Anybody smart enough will switch to Firefox without any problems, plus will get even better, faster and much stable Web browser, and it even takes less memory.----- Original Message ----- From: "James Teh" <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 25. kolovoz 2008 1:32 Subject: [nvda] Re: no changes to nvda trunk for nearly 3 days?List account (downstairs) wrote:These changes are necessary in order for formatting information to be read properly in various programs, including Firefox where formatting currently isn't read at all. It makes our support for Firefox more complete, as well as giving us a framework for implementing formatting easily for other applications. If you don't want to wait for the IE support to be rewritten, you're very welcome to start the job yourself. :)So do these bits of programming to add these extras help a mass of people, ie as much as getting IE to work moderately correctly might?Jamie -- James Teh Email: jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/ MSN Messenger: jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx Jabber: jteh@xxxxxxxxxx Yahoo: jcs_teh To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
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