[nvda] Re: introduction accessible mud clients and bible study software

Hello,
I would recommend Theophilos as Bible reading software - it is fully accessible and even contains an option of using text cursor inside Bible verses and other texts, which has to be activated first. There is huge collection of various Bibles and other readings. The homepage is www.theophilos.sk 

TomVal

Jessica Arnold napsal(a):

Hi all. I was reading the archives to see if I felt like subscribing
to the list or not. And I came across some messages regarding bible
study software and mud client accesibility.
I have just installed nvda on my machine a few days ago and I really
love it lots. And since mudding and Bible study are important to me I
tested nvda with some of the clients I have used before.
I do not know if tintin is accessible. Probably is but it doesn't have
msp support. mud master console however does work. If you do a
searchfor that in google it will come up.
As for bible study programs. I will make a comment and then I will
share two study programs I use.
First I do not know why people satisfy themselves with programs like
bibleseeker and the other one was mentioned. Which really are not
powerful tools for study or reading really. I have tried them both to
my disatisfaction in study content available.
The two programs you should try are:
e-sword
www.e-sword.net
This program has great potential. It is very accessible except for a
few points. topic reading needs a mouse it seems to access topic type
books. And I haven't figured out how on earth to write notes on
particular verses in e-sword which I must say in rather annoying. NVDA
works with it quite well except it doesn't read the tab areas right. I
do not know if this is nvda's fault or e-sword's fault. However if I
am not sure what bibl commentary or dictionary menu I am in I can find
out by going to the respective menu and hitting information and it
will tell you the info on whatever module you are currently on. If at
some time nvda can be made to work better with e-sword recognizing the
tab areas and such it would be a great program to use. It has many
study aids bible versions and other things. A valuable resource.
E-speak even pronounces the foreign letters properly. Or tries too.

online bible:
In a way one could say this is the king of bible study tools. Or has
been for quite a while.
www.onlinebible.net
And no  you do not have to be online (the internet) to use it despite
what some people have thought in the past. online bible seems to have
issues with jaws. I am not sure about window eyes. But it works with
nvda very nicely. You don't even need to turn on visually impaired
support. Just make sure to turn off floating word and some other
floating item in the view menu and it will behave like a good
accessible program should.
only problem I have found is nvda and jaws it seems too and system
access want to read a verse then go to the beginning of the chapter
and begin reading everything. THis only occurs in the bible reading
window and it doesn't matter whether visually impaired support is on
or not it still does it. But if you can handle this one annoyance you
have another valuable bible study source with hundreds of free add on
modules for study and reading purposes. And you can make your own
modules.
online bible has a ton of hot keys for different things. It is a huge
program and may take a while to learn but well worth it if you want to
learn it and put up with the oddityin the reading bible window.
dictionaries and commentaries and books do not have the odd behaviour
the online bible bible window does.

mudmaster works quite nicely from what I can tell. No it may not have
everything but it does have more than tintin I believe and it is very
easy to create macros aliases and the like.
I bring up these three things to let people know who were asking about
these so they have a resourc.
 I have used jaws window eyes system access speakup and orca as well
as other screen readers.
I am not bragging by any means. Just stating my background with screen
readers. Oh yes I also have used asap and vocal eyes and asaw on
occasion.
Among others.
I am pleased to find nvda. And what is more it fits my personal needs.
I hope the nvda project continues to grow and expand and that many
more people get interested and those who can get involved in the
project.
Those who want this feature and that feature. Please be patient. For
nvda's lifespan I am amazed at how much it does already. And how much
more it can do I can only imagine.
I thank the people mainly doing this project. Keep up the fantastic
word. I look forward to seeing a major release again come out soon.
maybe 1.0 this time?
Take care all. have a good day.
Jessica



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