[nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:27:49 -0500
As a follow up to my earlier post about the kbd file, here is an example of
what can be done
When you read down the list the first entry you will hear is insert+1
Keyboard Help. You can change the hotkey to something like control+1 and
save the change and restart NVDA. Keyboard help will then be assigned to
control+1
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
That is why the original idea I proposed to the developers was to just
have an option that changed the modifier key. Originally what I proposed
was to add a combo box that has desktop layout and laptop layout in there.
Actually all it will do is change the assignment of the insert key to
possibly the caps lock key because there are some laptops that do not have
an insert key. For any adventurous NVDA users out there, if you want to
change the keyboard assignments yourself for now, you can find your NVDA
folder and go to the app modules folder. in there there is a file called
default keyboard.kbd. Open that file in note pad, then you can change the
default hotkeys to whatever you want to. Save your changes, restart NVDA
and there you go. Mick did inform me that changing the insert key from
there could cause problems so just be aware of that. But changing the
other keys such as the b in the insert b hotkey should not cause a
problem. Have fun and hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Duff" <duff379@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
That's right, and I can attest to this having already trained some people
with NVDA.
Darren Duff.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of David Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:28 PM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
For the good computer user this would probably be just fine. But for the
not so savy user having to setup their own keyboard reading keys would
probably turn out to be difficult for them. We need to keep in mind that
for a software to grow in use it needs to be usable by more than just the
savy computer user, and easy enough to use to attract those who might not
be
able to afford speech software or the money to pay for training.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of The BlindTechs Network
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:45 PM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
why can't we just assign our own nvda key?
On May 29, 2007, at 9:34 PM, James Teh wrote:
Richard Wells wrote:
If you want to use CapsLock as a modifier, just do what speakup does.
When you want to toggle it hold down the shift key and press the
CapsLock key. This way you don't have to worry about double presses.
There are some NVDA commands that use modifier+shift. If we made
shift+modifier pass the key through, you would have to press
modifier+shift+key for those commands; shift+modifier+key wouldn't
work. This makes things pretty complicated and it would be easy to
mess this up. Also, shift has to be passed through to the application
regardless and there are cases where shift+insert would do something
different to just insert. Whatever gets used for pass through needs ot
be consistent.
Jamie
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That's right, and I can attest to this having already trained some people with NVDA. Darren Duff. Assistive Technology Instructor Tech-Able, Inc. Phone: (678)936-6113 personal E-mail duff379@xxxxxxxxx work E-mail: darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx win live messenger *no mail please* darren379@xxxxxxxxxxx skype ID duffman31279 www.techable.org "Empowering and Enriching Lives Through Assistive Technology" -----Original Message-----From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf David Tanner Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:28 PM To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout? For the good computer user this would probably be just fine. But for the not so savy user having to setup their own keyboard reading keys would probably turn out to be difficult for them. We need to keep in mind that for a software to grow in use it needs to be usable by more than just thesavy computer user, and easy enough to use to attract those who might not beable to afford speech software or the money to pay for training. -----Original Message-----From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf The BlindTechs Network Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:45 PM To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout? why can't we just assign our own nvda key? On May 29, 2007, at 9:34 PM, James Teh wrote:Richard Wells wrote:If you want to use CapsLock as a modifier, just do what speakup does. When you want to toggle it hold down the shift key and press the CapsLock key. This way you don't have to worry about double presses.There are some NVDA commands that use modifier+shift. If we made shift+modifier pass the key through, you would have to press modifier+shift+key for those commands; shift+modifier+key wouldn't work. This makes things pretty complicated and it would be easy to mess this up. Also, shift has to be passed through to the application regardless and there are cases where shift+insert would do something different to just insert. Whatever gets used for pass through needs ot be consistent. Jamie -- James Teh Email: jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/ MSN Messenger: jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx Jabber: jteh@xxxxxxxxxx Yahoo: jcs_teh To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify yourNVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify yourNVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
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- [nvda] Re: does nvda have a laptop kb layout?
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