[nvda] Re: autorun.inf in thumb drive

hi sir,

John Heim wrote:
I think what is listed first depends on how you have configured Windows XP. On 
my PC, the nbda directory is listed first.

to be honest, i did nothing on my pc and with the same thumb drive, it is work 
on more then hundert pcs since the first day i 
configure NVDA on my thumb drive. as i said previously, i'm a computer 
technician and i use my NVDA configured thumb drive everyday 
and with different computers, it is successful. i just plug-in and hit enterkye 
once, NVDA surely load up happily. this situation 
also same to a brand new computer, just right after i finish install windows 
XP, i just simply plug-in my NVDA thumb drive and hit 
enterkey once, NVDA startup just nice.

i personally don't understand, why with the same autorun.inf file can work 
successfully to many of us on this list, but why it is 
failed on your end?. is it any problem on your computer? or perhaps you are not 
running windows XP SP2?. just my thought.

warmest Regards,
Allan Wong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 05:52
Subject: [nvda] Re: autorun.inf in thumb drive


I think what is listed first depends on how you have configured Windows XP.
On my PC, the nbda directory is listed first.

I know hhow to write an autorun.inf file. There is one on the CD that I
created to run nvda when you insert the CD. I really don't think I'm doing
anything wrong. I just think you can't assume this stuff will work
regardless of how users have configured their machines.  I think there are 2
ways to start nvda automatically without installing anything:
1. Use a CD
2. Use a U3 enabled flash drive

Lots of other things *might* work but you can't count on it.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: autorun.inf in thumb drive


> hi,
> for normal or ordinary thumb drives, NVDA will not start immediately right
> after you plug-in the drive, it will pop-up a menu and
> ask you what you want to do and with the autorun.inf file provided by
> Chris, NVDA will be the first option on the menu. so, just hit
> enter once, NVDA will load. this is different if it is U3 type of thumb
> drives. although NVDA not start as soon as you plug-in the
> drive, but at least it is easyer then you go menually.
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Allan Wong
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 05:07
> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>
>
> Chris, Are you sure you have a plain USB thumb drive? I tried the inf file
> you attached to your message and it did not work for me. I've found
> bzillions of articles on the web that say autorun does not work on typical
> thumb drives. But here is something from the Microsoft web site:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/usbfaq.mspx
> --- Begin Quote ---
> Q: What must I do to trigger Autorun on my USB storage device?
> The Autorun capabilities are restricted to CD-ROM drives and fixed disk
> drives. If you need to make a USB storage device perform Autorun, the
> device
> must
> not be marked as a removable media device and the device must contain an
> Autorun.inf file and a startup application.
> The removable media device setting is a flag contained within the SCSI
> Inquiry Data response to the SCSI Inquiry command. Bit 7 of byte 1
> (indexed
> from
> 0) is the Removable Media Bit (RMB). A RMB set to zero indicates that the
> device is not a removable media device. A RMB of one indicates that the
> device
> is a removable media device. Drivers obtain this information by using the
> StorageDeviceProperty request.
> --- End Quote ---
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Bruinenberg" <chbruin7@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:43 PM
> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>
>
>> Hi
>> THis should make it work.  I have just a regular flash drive and it
>> works.
>>
>>
>> [autorun]
>> open=nvda\nvda.exe
>> Action=Start NVDA
>> icon=nvda\nvda.exe
>> shell\NVDA="Start NVDA"
>> shell\NVDA\command=nvda\nvda.exe
>>
>>
>> i'm also attatching the autorun file I have on my flash
>> Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:32 PM
>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>
>>
>>>I was waiting for somebody else to answer this question because all I
>>>know
>>>about it is from what I found out by googling for this topic after  we
>>>discussed it last week. From what I read, you have to have a particular
>>>type of flash drive for the autorun feature to work. It does not work on
>>>most flash drives.
>>>
>>> So you could buy another flash drive or you could just run nvda
>>> manually.
>>> It's still way, way easier to start than jaws.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "golden" <golden89@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:21 AM
>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi Jeff
>>>>
>>>> i've tried what you have suggested but still no luck'
>>>> nvda simply won't load at all.
>>>> is it because of other files on the flash drive which are stopping nvda
>>>> from loading?
>>>> do you think that i should try on a fresh flash drive?
>>>> thanks much again.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:48 AM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Here's an example. It might be exactly right, but it should give you an
>>>> idea.
>>>>
>>>> [autorun]
>>>> Open=nvda\nvda.exe
>>>> This files should be saved on the root of your flash drive.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>
>>>> Check out my blog!
>>>> The URL is
>>>> http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
>>>> "You learn something new every day!"
>>>> "You can do anything if you put your mind to it!"
>>>> "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we choose
>>>> to
>>>> see it."
>>>>
>>>> --Doomed Dragon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of golden
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:45 PM
>>>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> kindly share with us how to set autorun nvda on a flash drive
>>>> it's certainly very useful on PCS without  cdrom.
>>>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR KINDEST RESPONSE.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:09 AM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi John Heim,
>>>>> just wish to clear up the mess.
>>>>>
>>>>> not to tell the list that i don't have a cd/dvd rom, i just wish to
>>>>> tell
>>>>> you that, in my case is different. i am a computer
>>>>> technician and almost every day i'm facing to those office computer
>>>>> that
>>>>> their bosses don't want to hook up a cd/dvd-rom for their
>>>>> workers. so if i only have NVDA in cd-rom format, i might put myself
>>>>> in
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> a big trouble if i go and do service at their office.
>>>>>
>>>>> second, i know i can purches many device through the net, but that is
>>>>> good
>>>>
>>>>> if i leave in US, unfortunetly i'm not.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for your advice anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>> Allan Wong
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 23:53
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Allan, why do you keep telling the whole list that you don't have a CD
>>>>> drive? Okay, w'eve got that. If you can't use the CD image I created,
>>>>> well,
>>>>> that's too bad but what the heck am I supposed to do about it?  Other
>>>>> people
>>>>> have found it useful. Lots of other people do have CD drives. I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> that
>>>>> almost everybody has a CD drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I already told the list how to order the USB headset I am using.
>>>>> There
>>>>> is a very large on-line computer parts reseller named newegg.com. Go
>>>>> to
>>>>> www.newegg.com and search for 'plantronics headset'. Then do a page
>>>>> search
>>>>> for 550. That will put you right on the Plantronics 550 headset. It's
>>>>> $40+
>>>>> with shipping in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> If my advice doesn't apply to you, well, I'm sorry about that. But
>>>>> there's
>>>>> nothing I can do about it. Nor anyone else on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:43 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. as you mention "Plantronics 550" i can tell, this brand of headset
>>>>>> cannot fine in my country and i've used several brand of
>>>>>> headset does need to install the manufactory driver in order to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. as i've said many time on this list, not all the computer have
>>>>>> equip
>>>>>> with a cd/dvd-rom drive and i always facing this problem, so
>>>>>> the cd-iso may be useless in my case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>> Allan Wong
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 22:06
>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But allan, nobody said *all* headsets work out of the box. I said a
>>>>>> specific
>>>>>> USB (not bluetooth) headset, the Plantronics 550, does not need a
>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you plug in a supported headset, like the Plantronics 550, and
>>>>>> insert
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> CD built from the nvda CD image I created (see
>>>>>> http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/nvda/), I believe you will get speech
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> typically configured Windows XP computer without doing anything else.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> you're finished, you could close nvda, pop out the CD, and unplug the
>>>>>> headset and the PC would be back to exactly the state it was in
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> began.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i can tell you, not all device have windows build in driver. although
>>>>>>>i'm
>>>>>>>have a up-to-date copy of windows, some time i do need to
>>>>>>> install extra driver to have my bluetooth headset working. not all
>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>>> is windows compliant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just my personal experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wormest Regards,
>>>>>>> Allan Wong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 21:24
>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not require drivers. Well, I suppose it probably does but
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>> included in Windows XP. Assuming you're current on updates, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:39 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well that would probably be a question better asked on the USB
>>>>>>>> speaker
>>>>>>>> manufacturers website, but yeah in most cases expect that if you
>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>> hardware to a computer it will require drivers.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "mike coulombe" <kb8aey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks I will look in to that. Did you have to load a driver from
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> cd
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> make it work, or does windows really see it and allow nvda to work
>>>>>>>>> through it.
>>>>>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000765-2, 08/15/2007), Outbound message
>>>>>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- (Original Message) -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 15,  at 5:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: usb speakers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need a USB headset.  I just bought one from newegg. Works
>>>>>>>>> great.
>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>> plug it in, you get sound. Just the thing for machines w/o a sound
>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> where sound is misconfigured.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you're interested, go to  www.newegg.com and search for
>>>>>>>>> 'plantronics
>>>>>>>>> headset'. I got model 510. But I really wanted 500. They were out
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> stock
>>>>>>>>> when I ordered.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "mike coulombe" <kb8aey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: "screenreader" <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:54 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] usb speakers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks that's what I thought. Sound is needed and I need a way to
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> nvda
>>>>>>>>>> on systems that for one reason or another don't have a sound card
>>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>>>> Mike. 

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