[nvda] Re: a question about nvda
- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:49:28 -0600
I would suggest, and I'm not trying to denigrate your husband nor his
motives, that he learn what is reasonable and makes sense. There are almost
no programs available for 64 bit versions of Windows, many drivers are not
available, meaning that peripherals like scanners are hard to find and you
probably won't benefit as a typical user by getting a 64 bit version of
Windows for years. If you get a computer today and you won't benefit for
five or six years by getting a 64 bit version of Windows, you aren't
accomplishing anything meaningful by getting one now. You can spend almost
two thousand dollars getting a very powerful computer that, for a typical
user, provides no benefit. If your uses are for common purposes such as
surfing the Internet, looking at e-mail, recording using an audio recording
program, and other such nonintensive uses, you will do just as well getting
a six or seven hundred dollar computer. People ought to learn something
before they spend twice or more as much money as they need to. You shouldn't
spend huge amounts of money for the best computer currently available now
unless you need the best at this specific time. Most users do very well
with a computer that is not nearly the best and loose no ability to do
anything they want to do as a result. Unless you are doing video editing or
are a gamer, running intensive gaming programs, or have specific computer
intensive programs you need to run, which most people don't, you don't need
an expensive extremely powerful computer. As Kim Komando pointed out this
morning, most computer chips are far more powerful than is needed to run
most software at this time. In other words, most software doesn't require
anywhere near as much power as you will get with even a lower priced
computer at this time. People should be rational about computers. Just
because someone is buying a computer doesn't mean they give up their brains
nor the ability to use them. Would you buy the most expensive most powerful
car that is capable of performing on a race track for typical city and
highway driving? Then why do the same when it comes to buying a computer?
Gene
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my husband watns me to have one he wants the best computer for me i guess
am not sure.
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A question best asked on a Window Eyes group, but I'm sure I heard an item
on acb radio saying that if it does not, it is in work.
Could one ask for what reason you want a 64 bit O/S exactly?
Brian
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From: "janet smith`" <janetp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: a question about nvda
thanks for the infomration on this does windowize work with 64 bit os?
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From: "Hiram Kuykendall" <hiramk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:04 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: a question about nvda
The 64 bit processor isn't a problem as long as you are running a 32 bit
operating systems (OS). JAWS and I believe Windows-eyes do NOT work
with Vista 64 bit since these packages apparently use some additional
hooks into the video driver. Microsoft completely changed the
underlying video system for the 64 bit OS.
After talking to some engineers at Jaws, I would suggest you change to
the 32 bit OS until everyone can catch up. Apparently the 64 bit
operating systems are substantially different and it will take some time
to catch up.
FYI, I'm getting old and crazy and I can't remember if NVDA ran on the
64 bit OS before I removed it. My recollection is it did. That would
make sense given that NVDA seems to solely rely on the accessibility
infrastructure (DOM and MSAA). As evidence of that, I can put NVDA on
ANY computer without adverse affects!!!! Wa hoooo!!!! This is not true
of JAWS. For example, I work with developers who use two monitors.
Since Jaws apparently puts hooks into the video system, one of the
monitors will stop responding.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of janet smith`
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:03 AM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] a question about nvda
hi alll am a new member and i want to know if nvda will work with 64 bit
systmes meaning i would have a 64 bit processor if it does will be happy
if
it don't then i will be frustrated in the fact that a screen reader
won't
work with that processor.
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msn and e mail janetp@xxxxxxxxxxxx yahoo messenger striper13----- Original Message ----- From: "BGlists imap account" <bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: [nvda] Re: a question about nvda
A question best asked on a Window Eyes group, but I'm sure I heard an item on acb radio saying that if it does not, it is in work. Could one ask for what reason you want a 64 bit O/S exactly? Brian----- Original Message ----- From: "janet smith`" <janetp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [nvda] Re: a question about nvdathanks for the infomration on this does windowize work with 64 bit os? msn and e mail janetp@xxxxxxxxxxxx yahoo messenger striper13----- Original Message ----- From: "Hiram Kuykendall" <hiramk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: [nvda] Re: a question about nvda The 64 bit processor isn't a problem as long as you are running a 32 bit operating systems (OS). JAWS and I believe Windows-eyes do NOT work with Vista 64 bit since these packages apparently use some additional hooks into the video driver. Microsoft completely changed the underlying video system for the 64 bit OS. After talking to some engineers at Jaws, I would suggest you change to the 32 bit OS until everyone can catch up. Apparently the 64 bit operating systems are substantially different and it will take some time to catch up. FYI, I'm getting old and crazy and I can't remember if NVDA ran on the 64 bit OS before I removed it. My recollection is it did. That would make sense given that NVDA seems to solely rely on the accessibility infrastructure (DOM and MSAA). As evidence of that, I can put NVDA on ANY computer without adverse affects!!!! Wa hoooo!!!! This is not true of JAWS. For example, I work with developers who use two monitors. Since Jaws apparently puts hooks into the video system, one of the monitors will stop responding. -----Original Message----- From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of janet smith` Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:03 AM To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nvda] a question about nvda hi alll am a new member and i want to know if nvda will work with 64 bit systmes meaning i would have a 64 bit processor if it does will be happy if it don't then i will be frustrated in the fact that a screen reader won't work with that processor. msn and e mail janetp@xxxxxxxxxxxx yahoo messenger striper13 To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda MicroAssist, Inc. 3420 Executive Center Drive, Suite G100 Austin, TX 78731 http://www.microassist.net Phone: (512) 794-8440 Fax: (512) 794-8742 To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an opensource free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda --------------------------------------------------------------------------------No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comVersion: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1688 - Release Date: 9/24/20086:29 AM To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an opensource free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvdaTo post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To modify your NVDA Email settings go to: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvdaThank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:http://www.nvda-project.org/ To get the latest NVDA snapshot: http://www.nvda-project.org/snapshots/ Report bugs or make feature requests at: http://trac.nvda-project.org/ Message Archive: http://www.freelists.org/archives/nvda
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