[nvda] Re: To all list members

Me too, It doesn't read in the history but does read with jaws by using Alt 
+ 1 to Alt +0

Sorry for the error.

Rick


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ka Yat Li" <ka.yat.li@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: To all list members


Hi:

Ooops my bad. I just remember that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] To all list members


> hi Ka Yat Li,
> you should try it once. ask some one send you an emoticons, then press
> shift tab to the history window, use your arrow key up/down,
> you will notice that jaws will only read the messages but not the
> graphical emoticons. but however, you can read the emoticons by
> pressing alt1 to 0 to read the history window. NVDA can read those
> emoticons even when you use the arrow keys in the history window.
> try it yourself.
>
> sorry for mentioning about jaws.
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Allan Wong
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ka Yat Li" <ka.yat.li@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 03:47
> Subject: [nvda] Re: To all list members
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I think JAWS and Window Eyes can read Emodicons as well but the fact that
> NVDA already supports reading them is pretty impressive.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:24 AM
> Subject: [nvda] Re: To all list members
>
>
>> Well I've found an amazing discovery yesterday. When I was using Windows
>> Live Messenger, I noticed that NVDA can read graphical emoticons, even
>> in the history window, which no other screen reader, to my knowledge,
>> can currently do! This is a great bonus as I have contacts who I think
>> forget that I'm blind and therefore can't read emoticons. Now I won't
>> have to remind them anymore! Thanks guys and keep up the good works!
>> John, I may join the developers list as I'll be interested in how they
>> develop NVDA. I know they use Python and the like, but I'd like to watch
>> them in progress, as it were.
>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 13:26:59 -0500, "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> said:
>>> Hello list members,
>>> As I am reading through the list of emails, I am noticing a pattern of
>>> questions.  Many of the questions I have encountered have been asking
>>> the
>>> developers to add something that NVDA doesn't already do.  While it is
>>> ok
>>> to request new features in NVDA please keep in mind this.  NVDA has a
>>> very small number of people that are programming the actual code for it.
>>> In fact there are only around 3 or 4 that I know of.  I would like to
>>> ask
>>> all list members to please remain patient with them.  One of the number
>>> one requested features on this list is for video display hooks.  Yes, it
>>> is a known request, and it is being researched.  In any case, I have
>>> noticed a few other disturbing trends.  As new members are added the
>>> same
>>> questions begin to be asked.  I would like to take this time to ask the
>>> existing members to help Mick out in this area.  If you notice a
>>> question
>>> that you either know the answer to, or have seen appear on the list
>>> before, please help the newer members out by explaining to them what you
>>> know about the issue.  Now I being on the developers list too, see each
>>> and every day Mick and others adding fixes, and sometimes new features
>>> at
>>> a very brisk pace.  It is mind boggling sometimes to watch them.  I am
>>> not a programmer of NVDA myself but I find it fascinating to see how
>>> quickly they work.  Sometimes, I myself think of a new feature I would
>>> like to see added into NVDA but I try to watch what they are doing and
>>> try my best to refrain from one request after another.  Another
>>> disturbing trend I have noticed are list members that come back to the
>>> list and ask if the feature they requested has been added yet.  While I
>>> can see why people may want to ask that question, I can't see the need
>>> for posting it to the list.  The reason is because they could very
>>> easily
>>> download the latest version of NVDA and test it and see for themselves.
>>> Now, I would also like to redirect the posts on this list by saying, the
>>> number one thing I have not seen on this list is this.  No one to my
>>> knowledge has come back to the list and said hey I just discovered that
>>> NVDA works pretty good with an application that it is not known to work
>>> with.  In closing I would like to say that each member on this list
>>> should really take the time to explore the applications they have on
>>> their computer and report back to the list programs that work well with
>>> NVDA that are not otherwise known.  I understand that it is frustrating
>>> that NVDA does not work with every application you have but before you
>>> get frustrated, please try to take the time to find some that it does
>>> work well with.  I can assure you even the programmers get frustrated
>>> because it does not work with every program in existence, but I can
>>> assure you they sometimes also feel frustrated by the number of people
>>> that only seem to ask for new features because NVDA does not work with
>>> the programs they had hoped it would.  I can say for me personally, I am
>>> quite stunned by the number of programs NVDA does work with that have
>>> not
>>> required the NVDA team to do any additional work.  There are also a
>>> large
>>> number of programs that NVDA will work with but have problems in some
>>> areas.  Most notable of these is Skype.  It is a known issue that NVDA
>>> is
>>> not able to read the menus in Skype versions lower than version 3.  But
>>> I
>>> have found that it is still very possible to use those versions of Skype
>>> without NVDA needing to read the menus.  I also have a tip for some that
>>> have wanted to be able to arrow around and select text in a MSN or
>>> Windows messenger window.  If you go into the message history window and
>>> press Control A to select all of the text in the window then copy it to
>>> the clipboard.  Open up a text editor such as note pad and paste it in
>>> there you will then be able to do with it what you wish.  In any case,
>>> my
>>> point to this post is don't be afraid to explore and you may find a tip
>>> or two that you can pass along to others.
>>> Thank you for your time.
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>>
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Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open 
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Report bugs or make feature requests at:
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source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows:
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Report bugs or make feature requests at:
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