[nvda] Re: Some random thoughts

Again, this is ideology over reason.  there is no point in providing
meaningless information.  Following this logic, you might as well have MDI
window announced since, as I understand it, that's what many of these
windows are technically.  Pane is either an entire window or part of a
window.  When I hear Outlook Express or read the desktop with the title bar
or have four windows opened and alt tab to one and open it, there is no
meaningful information being expressed with the unnecessary word pane.

On another matter of unnecessary information, when alt tabbing, there is no
reason to have icons numbered and announced.  I don't need to hear Notepad,
icon 1.  I need to hear notepad. Also, the numbering of the icons changes
every time you open a program by alt tabbing when multiple programs are
opened.  Knowing the number doesn't help you move any faster.  It's just
clutter. If NVDA wants to be different and follow its own philosophical bent
it should still take into account what years of experience have demonstrated
in what for profit screen-readers do.  The level of unnecessary verbosity
has gone down in important ways over the years.  Window-eyes used to
announce MDI window or MDI frame, I don't remember which every time a
program opened with such a window.  That was done away with years ago.  JAWS
used to say something like, read dialog in tab order every time insert b was
used before reading the dialog. It may be that these changes were made
because of numerous complaints.

Announcing structures that have meaning to
the user is one thing.  Obviously, you want to know that you are in a list
or an edit field.  You do different things in these fields.  But hearing
icon numbers when alt tabbing through opened programs and hearing pane every
time you open a window provides no meaningful information.

Gene
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