On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 08:39 +1000, James Teh wrote: > I'm one of the few people who absolutely hates notebook keyboard maps > for screen readers and instead prefers to use the number pad accessed > with the FN modifier key. I prefer to learn one single key map and then > learn the numpad layout for my notebook, so I don't have to remember two > sets of screen reader commands. A lot of people only have a notebook. > I'm not sure why so many people hate using the number pad on notebooks > with the FN key, but I guess I'm a bit weird in that regard. :) A number pad is designed on a similar principle to the keys on a phone or a calculator. The spread of fake number pad keys across my the QWERTY and numbers section of my Thinkpad keyboard is nothing like any other device. If it wasn't modal so that using number pad mode locked me out of using the same keys as ordinary letter and number keys, it wouldn't be so bad. But as it is trying to control speech in real time would be fiddly to say the least. Your keyboard may just be better designed. I have absolutely no objection to NVDA's keyboard controls being made totally configurable; indeed, I think that would be a strength. But I do think there needs to be an alternative, laptop layout which will instantly appeal to the majority of laptop users. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis To post messages to the list send email to nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message to: nvda-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. Thank you for your continued support of Nonvisual Desktop Access, an open source free screen reader for Microsoft Windows: http://www.kulgan.net/nvda/