[nvda] Re: Odd behavior of NVDA in some menus

Hi Portia,

The reason for that odd behavior of NVDA in some of Skype's and in Avast's menus is the same - the menus are not ... how to say it ... standardized. The MSAA text on witch NVDA relies is empty in those unreadable by NVDA menus. If you turn the accessibility options in Skype, most of the menus of Skype will be readable by NVDA - I've just tested it myself. The only unreadable menus now are the ones for the status changing, but in this case you just go to the button that says your current status, press spacebar to activate it and NVDA reads it and you can change your Skype status from there. The currently activated status is checked and unavailable and NVDA reads this as I have written it. About Avast: I haven't used it since a long time ago. But if I remember correctly, the menus in the "standard view" of Avast are not iconized, but they use some special "style", similar to Office XP or something like that and that might be the reason for NVDA not reading them. Unfortunately, I don't know of a workaround for this problem with Avast. And that makes me sometimes think about some things about programs: Why do programmers do their applications (like antivirus software, CD/DVD burning software etc.) so "shiny" instead of more usable and functional? Well ... In my opinion, after all those kind of programs are PC tools and not something for fun and relaxation what the music and video players are in general. For the players and such is normal to have more shiny and beautiful interface, but it is not so normal for programs like antivirus and CD/DVD burning ones to be like that. Well ... that is all from me for now. And sorry, if my letter got a little bit longer.

P.S.: If you don't know how to turn on accessibility options in Skype - just ask and someone from here will probably answer you.

Best wishes!
Kostadin Kolev

Portia wrote:
Hi,

Just thought I'd add to this. When I'm in a menu in Skype or Avast, Nvda will just say, 1 of 12. 3 of 12. 4 of 12.

It never says the name of the item.

Portia
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermann" <meinelisten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] Odd behavior of NVDA in some menus


Hi,
in some menus NVDA behaves incorrectly:
It doesn't speak the menu items, just its state or its position within the structure: For example: "unavailable" "x of y", where "x" is the actual position of the item, and "y" is the number of items at all. However I don't hear the title of the item, so it's impossible to navigate.
It happens in Cute-FTP and in the menu of the Avira virus scanner.
It may happen in other programs, but this is what I've figured out.
Is this known? What to do to work around it?
Hermann
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