[nvda] Re: OT: login on pages of the European Commission crashes IE

Often I think its problems with the Windows installation which tend only to show themselves under certain conditions. I'd hazard a guess that most of these are caused by anti virus or anti spyware software hooking into the code and not always understanding the way screenreaders sometimes need to do the same whic can cause many of the weird symptoms. Its this weird way Msoft use the ie code in other things etc, that seem to give it a lot more chances of things screwing it up! 

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: OT: login on pages of the European Commission crashes IE



You are generalizing from your experience.  I have found IE6 to be very
stable.  On some web sites, it doesn't work quickly with screen-readers,
evidently because of a code conflict between the MSAA code of the
screen-reader and the page but it seldom crashes here. I generally use it, though on pages where the slowness problem exists, I use Firefox. However, 
I did find one site, the Shoutcast site, where Firefox is almost unuseable
with JAWS. I don't recall if I tested it with Window-eyes. I haven't used 
IE7 but if it is as bad as you claim in general and not just in your
experience, you'd have seen unending complaints since it came out.  I have
seen nothing out of the ordinary in terms of negative comments and
complaints.

Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: OT: login on pages of the European Commission crashes IE 



ie is quite finicky.
I use ie6 because this is xp, wouldn't go any higher.
Although the web is changing.
ie will work and then it won't and then it will.
The only good news is that I can actually run my life without having to go 
online that much for now.
At 06:56 a.m. 23/09/2008, you wrote:

I assume its been tried with Firefax, as IE crashes at the slightest poke
in the ribs in my experience on some sites.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nermin" <voy44@xxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] OT: login on pages of the European Commission crashes IE



Hi all, as this is a bit off topic, please direct any comments or
suggestions to voy44@xxxxxxxxx
A friend has problems on many EU institution websites.
Using IE7 and JAWS or NVDA, she tries to input her data, name and
password, and upon that, IE crashes, giving the standard error reporting
message "IE has detected a problem and needs to be closed.".
It seems to affect both JAWS and NVDA, I do not know whether she tried it 
without any speech loaded and a sighted person watching the screen.
She tried many things, from enabling and disabling coockies, playing
around with internet zone security settings, but nothing so far.
I know this sounds rather vague, but I cannot give out any address to try 
this, since this would require disclosing user name and password, sorry
for that.
Is there anything one might try to solve this annoiing problem?
FF 3 is quite new to her, and she doesn't feel very comfortable using it. 

Best regards,
Nermin

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