[nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray

No its not that, its being splurged into the void created by larger and annoying icons I think! 
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray
I don't know whether this is relevant, but somewhere there is an option to hide inactive taskbar icons. That could be a problem if Windows decides something is inactive and then you want to get to it. You can toggle this off, but where in Control Panel that is I'm afraid I've forgotten. 

Vince.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Gaff" <bglists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:43 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray
But in xp and nvda and many other readers, some of the tray items seem not to be there at all. I note in one machine its like Russian roulette if you get the wireless dongle connection indication or not and the windows update warning or not. 

Its as if they splurge over each other.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray



The reason many screen readers have a Windows system tray dialogue is
because at one time during the use of Windows 95 and Windows 98 the system 
tray was not focusable.
Later on with the introduction of Windows millennium edition, the system
tray became a standard toolbar and became focusable.
With the introduction of Windows XP many bugs with the system tray keyboard 
implementation were introduced.
These problems were recently rectified with the introduction of Windows
Vista.
However, many screen reader still have the problem of not being able to
identify at all times  buttoned  in focus.
So it was necessary to make the mouse pointer followed the focus.
also you have situations where different things happen depending upon how 
many times you click the mouse.
This is why some screen readers do have  this system tray dialogue
implementation.
I hope this explanation is helpful

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Jyrki Voutilainen
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:16 AM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray

On Monday, June 23, 2008 11:52 PM [GMT+1=CET],
John Greer <jpgreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


to get to the system tray just press the windows shortcut of windows
key + b


And like mentioned here the Win + B really is a Windiws, not a screen
reader shortcut, and when using it the Application key activates the
systray application menu whatever screen reader is used or not. But for
some reason some screen reader manufacturers have added a screen reader
dependent shortcut key to access the system tray and others. That seems
both very practical but confusing, on the other hand, because some times
it may be difficult to make difference between the Windows and the screen 
reader shortcuts. That's not a very big problem when using the
applications by yourself, but when assisting somebody who uses another
screen reader or no screen reader at all that may be a bit confusing some 
times, but not for advanced users who are aware of the differences.

--
Jyrki Voutilainen
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