[nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray

The explanation below was more than helpful, so very many thanks for it!

----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray


The reason many screen readers have a Windows system tray dialogue is
because at one time during the use of Windows 95 and Windows 98 the system
tray was not focusable.
Later on with the introduction of Windows millennium edition, the system
tray became a standard toolbar and became focusable.
With the introduction of Windows XP many bugs with the system tray keyboard
implementation were introduced.
These problems were recently rectified with the introduction of Windows
Vista.
However, many screen reader still have the problem of not being able to
identify at all times  buttoned  in focus.
So it was necessary to make the mouse pointer followed the focus.
also you have situations where different things happen depending upon how
many times you click the mouse.
This is why some screen readers do have  this system tray dialogue
implementation.
I hope this explanation is helpful

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jyrki Voutilainen
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:16 AM
To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA and the System Tray

On Monday, June 23, 2008 11:52 PM [GMT+1=CET],
John Greer <jpgreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

to get to the system tray just press the windows shortcut of windows
key + b

And like mentioned here the Win + B really is a Windiws, not a screen
reader shortcut, and when using it the Application key activates the
systray application menu whatever screen reader is used or not. But for
some reason some screen reader manufacturers have added a screen reader
dependent shortcut key to access the system tray and others. That seems
both very practical but confusing, on the other hand, because some times
it may be difficult to make difference between the Windows and the screen
reader shortcuts. That's not a very big problem when using the
applications by yourself, but when assisting somebody who uses another
screen reader or no screen reader at all that may be a bit confusing some
times, but not for advanced users who are aware of the differences.

--
Jyrki Voutilainen
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Skype ID: jvoutila

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