[nvda] Re: NVDA, Now The Screen Reader Of Choice?

well I have been running 6.2 and from that stand point there is nothing in 
future versions I'd actually want, the only 2 things that may get me going up 
are 64k support and win vista/7 support.
Maybe the new reg system.
but thats that.
hmm maybe 2007 office to.
At 01:50 a.m. 4/09/2009, you wrote:
>The last I shall say about the dear old shark, is that the day that
>freedom decides to make upgrades actually mean something, is the day I
>may play with a demo
>. All these features come down to a price of around $160, and that for
>every upgrade is ridiculous in itself.
>Must I say the upgrades are too modern?
>That's the biggest thing, this research feature.
>Jaws will always still be the largest screen reader on a person's
>harddrive, and its quite sad its over 100 MB, not including the
>self-talking installer, which is not technically needed.
>Oh, and as for documentation and stuff, it of course is my own
>oppinion, nothing more.
>But the fact always willl remain, Jaws will never, be, stable. Just
>wait or the next time it crashes.
>As for the hotkeys, who's gonna mess with one of those files with hot
>keys? Too risky in my oppinion.
>Ok, I'm done.
>The only thing great about Freedom if anything, is their podcasts. A
>bit long, but they got good intro music.
>Oh, anything Jaws can do, NVDA and Window-Eyes can do it quite easily.
>Case closed for the T Man here, back to the Window-Eyes and NVDA side of life.
>
>Trenton, the T Man!
>
>
>On 9/3/09, Mario Percinic <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Well, actually i think that one of the reasons why freedom decided to give
>> their fsreader for free with jaws is due to the situation that daisy is
>> slowly becoming more and more fre and open source. If you read last few
>> issues of their daisy plannet you can see it. More and more software
>> products based on open source are coming out including free amis player, and
>> right now there is also free tool for compleete daisy book producing called
>> Obi. The best think so far is that daisy took leadership in giving support
>> for the standardization of epub format as new ebook standards which is
>> becoming more and more popular every day and included in the hardware
>> products like sony ebook readers etc.
>>
>> Speaking of nvda, i think that i'm very boring when i talk to people all the
>> time about nvda and its good improvement, but i can't help my self :)
>> Personally, if nvda would have good support for some of the multitracking
>> software for musicinas, and if the support for ms office or open office
>> would be better, i would really use nvda all the time as my main screen
>> reader. But, i hope that it will change quite soon when the display hooks
>> come when when we are going to be able to create custom scripts for it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Trenton Matthews" <trenton.tmantv@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:01 AM
>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA, Now The Screen Reader Of Choice?
>>
>>
>>>I put a question mark there, for those of you who are other screen
>>> readers to share your oppinions here.
>>>
>>> Unless you folks really want me to list every, single, detailed Jaws
>>> 11 beta feature available on this list, here's the link to the entire
>>> article with its beta download links:
>>>
>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp
>>>
>>>
>>> Now let me tell ya something folks, I've talked to over 10 people I
>>> know personally who are users of Jaws 9, Jaws 10, and are not willing
>>> to upgrade do to what Freedom has now done.
>>>
>>> Changing keystrokes around that have been the same for I don't know
>>> how long to work with a certain new feature they have added, adding
>>> small bits of bug fixes that they should have made in Jaws 10, and how
>>> many folks are gonna use this "Research" feature.
>>> Don't they know you can easily look up sports scores, articles, etc.,
>>> just by searching for it?
>>>
>>> Now yes, Window-Eyes does have a script out there to let you do the
>>> same thing, but its "optional."
>>> Again, "optional!"
>>> If you want to use the feature, use it! If you don't want the feature,
>>> don't install it!
>>>
>>> You a Jaws user? You can't do anything about it!
>>> Sure you don't have to use the feature, but now you have a new
>>> keystroke for the "virtual view" function, and well? How many folks
>>> are wanting to learn a new keystorke?
>>>
>>> And to mention something else here, you know why the Freedom
>>> Scientific company has decided to make their FS-Reader "free," even
>>> for demo Jaws users?
>>> Its because Freedom is going down in the market!
>>>
>>> I don't expect NVDA in the future to have a tandom feature, or a
>>> research feature, or even a tell what version of internet explorer you
>>> are currently running feature.
>>>
>>> I understand why NVDA is going the open source route, and that's the
>>> smartest thing anyone for Windows has ever done.
>>> One day, just like with Window-Eyes NVDA can use JAVA without the
>>> access bridge like in Window-Eyes, where video hooks can be there and
>>> almost every application in the world can be accesible.
>>> That's what Serotek has been doing for years, and it'd be awesome! if
>>> Serotek and the NVDA tea could team up like they did with creating
>>> that SAPI 4 driver long ago.
>>> The power to have a screen reader on a pen drive where you don't need
>>> a video intercept driver to be installed by some admin at your work
>>> place or school.
>>> The power to have a screen reader, that can actually work with
>>> Seamonkey/Firefox's Chatzilla client to visit I R C networks and chat
>>> real time on them.
>>> The power to have a screen reader, to work with Facebook, and Twitter,
>>> and an app for Twitter "Qwitter," although using SAPI, it gets along
>>> with NVDA nicely.
>>> Although Miranda is the best way for messenging for NVDA users at this
>>> time, Windows Live is getting close to being perfect with its ease of
>>> usage and NVDA is the only screen reader that works with the sounds
>>> panel in Windows live messenger.
>>> Yahoo Messenger 10 I hope works with NVDA soon, and the same with AIM
>>> 7 with XP, which works nicely with NVDA on Vista and later.
>>> Keep in mind, accessibility is best in Vista and later.
>>>
>>> And finally, the power of a screen reader, to have all these features,
>>> and be totall, 100 percent, free?
>>> The more I tell about NVDA, the more I'm proud of it. The more I'm
>>> proud of it, the more excited I am. And the more excited I am, the
>>> more people I want to join this list!
>>>
>>> Ok, so the NVDA Nation thing didn't go as well as I hoped, therefore,
>>> we got this one, the original NVDA community!
>>>
>>> Thank you all for reading, comments welcomed, good or bad!
>>> The T Man is out of here!
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