[nvda] Re: NVDA Crashing or Losing speech

Same problem Win7-64-bit Elloquence but other synths as well from time to time.

On 3/7/12, Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I can't remember but did you say it was a 64 bit system?  I have had
> this from time to time but it really was with firefox and thunderbird
> and now that have got rid of most addons I don't get this any more.
>
> On another track since I have installed window's8 last week I kept all
> my settings and programs but now sapi no longer works with nvda I have
> not tested it say with text aloud.
>
> I get can't load the sapi sinthisiser can anyone shed any lite on how to
> fix this?
>
> On 09/03/2012 18:29, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> Yes, it's with all synths also Espeak.
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Kevin Cussick
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA Crashing or Losing speech
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does it work OK using espeak? if so use that as talking about the other
>> sinth is band on here.
>>
>> On 09/03/2012 18:20, Shawn Klein wrote:
>>> I have the same experience with windows 7 64 bit and NVDA 2011.3 using
>>> Eloquence. It restarts with control+alt+n. It happened 3 times today
>>> while
>>> filling out a PDF form in Adobe reader, but it also happens in IE9, MS
>>> Outlook 2003 and Windows Explorer. Sometimes when it happens it's because
>>> IE9 has stopped working, but that's only around 10% of the time. It
>>> pretty
>>> much always happens while arrowing or tabbing. System sounds aren't
>>> effected.
>>> I can't recall it ever happening in Skype, Goldwave, or with the RS Games
>>> and Playroom clients.
>>> Shawn Klein
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Laurie Mehta
>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:33 AM
>>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA Crashing or Losing speech
>>>
>>> As I have mentioned on this list, I have this problem with version
>>> 2011.3 on
>>> my Win7 machine.
>>>
>>> I still use NVDA exclusively and I now have a routine that I proceed with
>>> when the speech quits.
>>> I restart NVDA with the shortcut keys. Then, since two NVDA-s are in my
>>> system tray, I go to the system tray and click on one of them, using the
>>> menu to exit NVDA. Then, I again re-start NVDA with the key
>>> combination for
>>> that and I have just one NVDA running. This is consistent.
>>>
>>> When NVDA crashes, it also spontaneously re-starts for me.
>>>
>>> Very strange, but not impossible to deal with.
>>>
>>> I do wish that whatever is causing this would be fixed, though.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments.
>>> - Laurie
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 3/9/12, David Goldfield<dgoldfie@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: David Goldfield<dgoldfie@xxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA Crashing or Losing speech
>>>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 10:30 AM
>>>> Hi. To be honest this was an
>>>> issue but 2011.3, at least for me, was
>>>> incredibly solid on my Win7 machine and so the problem has
>>>> not been constant
>>>> throughout NVDA version history.
>>>> I may file a ticket about it, assuming it hasn't already
>>>> been reported, but
>>>> as I said it's impossible to reliably reproduce.
>>>> I'm not angry at NVAccess: I know they're doing the best
>>>> they can and NVDA
>>>> is an awesome product.
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:nvda-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Davy Cuppens
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:26 AM
>>>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Re: NVDA Crashing or Losing speech
>>>>
>>>> Hey David
>>>>
>>>> Really man I am so so glad that people dare to mention this
>>>> issue here. Ever
>>>> since nvda 2010.1, NVDA keeps on crashing and crashing and
>>>> crashing in win7
>>>> 32 and especially 64 bit systems. I am having so many
>>>> crashes that I decided
>>>> to stop working with NVDA just because it seems for me that
>>>> NVDA isn't
>>>> accessible for Win7 at all whatever others may say. So, I
>>>> was believing it
>>>> was default of my system, that I have memory leaks or bugs
>>>> or even a memory
>>>> problem on my pc but after this mail I'm more convinced than
>>>> ever that there
>>>> are so many folks facing these problems only with win 7. I
>>>> admit, in XP I've
>>>> never had this problem.
>>>> Now I hope the devs take the problem serious and search for
>>>> solutions. It is
>>>> really like you said not reproducable because it happens in
>>>> every situation.
>>>> Greetz
>>>> Davy
>>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:47 PM
>>>> To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA Crashing or Losing speech
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I've noticed an odd problem both with NVDA 2012.1 beta 1 and
>>>> beta 2 and it
>>>> somewhat reminds me of an issue which some of us ran into
>>>> last year with
>>>> NVDA but which was fixed very nicely in 2011.3.
>>>> I'm using NVDA 2012.1 beta 2 on a windows 7, 32-bit
>>>> machine. Once in a
>>>> while, seemingly at random, NVDA stops talking.
>>>> Pressing ctrl-alt-N always
>>>> restarts successfully. I'm using both Espeak and the
>>>> Microsoft speech
>>>> platform Zira Pro voice and it seems to happen with both of
>>>> these synths.
>>>> This does not happen at all on my older XP Pro machine at
>>>> home. It seems to
>>>> happen the most as I'm arrowing through a web page with
>>>> Firefox 10 but
>>>> that's only because that's a lot of what I do: it also
>>>> crashed like this
>>>> when arrowing through a message in Outlook 2003. I
>>>> can't seem to isolate
>>>> what makes this happen and I'm wondering if anyone else has
>>>> any ideas about
>>>> this or has possibly encountered this.
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>
> --
> All The Best
> Kevin Cussick
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>
Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA
Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at:
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Or by purchasing voices from Ivona TTS:
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Use the following link with the code STOR-4NS3-DSCT to save 10% on Voices from 
nextup.com:
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To post messages to the list send email to
nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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The NVDA controler DLL is at:
http://www.nvda-project.org/nvdaControllerClient/
NVDA Snapshot Downloader:
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Get SkypeTalking for NVDA:
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