[nvda] Re: Landing on visited links

Screen-readers do generally return to the place you previously were at if you leave a page and then return. I haven't used NVDA enough to evaluate whether this feature exists and its reliability. this feature is not as reliable as it might be in the screen-readers I've paid attention to it in. But this is not a question of returning specifically to visited links. Screen-readers, if the feature works properly, return you to wherever you were, whether you were on a line of plain text or a link or anywhere else. If you were not on a link when you left a page, you wouldn't want a screen-reader to return you to a link. You would want to be returned to the sentence you were reading, the field in the form you were working with, the table you were working with, etc. While a nice feature when it works, a little thought will solve this problem unless you are working with lots of pages. Simply remember a word near where you were reading or working with the page. When you return to the page. go to the top, use find and search for the word. You would remember a word that is not likely to be repeated much on the page. This method works well. I consider reliance on visited links to often suggest that people don't use the find command to anywhere near it's useful capacity. The more often you work with a page and the more links you follow, the more useless visited links become. On the New York Times page, if I start at the top and want to find something, use of the visited links command takes me to so many links that I might have to repeat the command five or ten or even maybe twenty times to get to the link I want. It makes much more sense to simply use the find command, type the first four letters of what I'm looking for and move there in that manner. Most of the time, you don't have to type more than the first four letters of a word in a link or a web page to move there efficiently. Thus to get to the opinion link, opin is sufficient. To get to the science link, I can type only three letters, sci. This is an unusual combination of letters and only three letters is needed. I said here awhile ago that I made available a free tutorial I developed which teaches efficient use of the Internet. I said that I think it would be a good idea to distribute it with NVDA. It doesn't deal with NVDA because it was developed before that screen-reader came out. But with some additions by a volunteer or volunteers who would place a small section in it, either in the readme file or the recording, information could be added about a few firefox commands and enough information so the user could adapt the instruction throughout the tutorial to NVDA. Use of the Internet is one of the areas where blind people have the most unnecessary problems and much of this is because of bad or nonexistent training and some of it is because blind people either don't take advantage of or don't use resources like my tutorial which, I believe, is unique and may well be the most likely resource to develop really skilled blind Internet users. You can evaluate it for yourself by downloading it at: 
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=b2fbfd6ebe599f5a9308c4d55084f2c4
I hope that at some point, information about the tutorial is placed on the NVDA web page and included in NVDA help. 

Gene
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This has been a long running request for many screenreaders, and I guess it would mean keeping a table of visited links per page which might not be as simple as it sounds. 
Brian

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On 22/11/2008 6:34 AM, Kennydog wrote:

Lately useing the snapshots I use the V key for visited links and that
works very well
I think the original poster meant returning to the link you followed on a previous page. For example, if you follow the third link on a page, pressing back should take you to the third link. 


I don't think its in the P2 release though

The quick navigation keys you mention are definitely in 0.6p2.

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